From 2006:
ROBIN QUIVERS: Yeah, do you have an age limit or would you–
FUTURE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: If I- No, no, I have no age–. I mean, I have an age li–.
ROBIN QUIVERS: The upper bracket–.
FUTURE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I don’t want to be like Congressman Foley, with, you know, 12-year-olds.
He started to say he had no age limit, then seemingly corrected himself by deflecting onto Former Congressman Mark Foley, who sent sexually explicit instant messages to 16 and 17 year old boys. Whether he was more deterred by the ages themselves or the fact that it was a scandal is an exercise left to the reader.
How can this guy be your president, US folks? It was absolutely well known.
Even now, still no appropriate response. Instead, just more of what was also totally foreseeable: corruption and fascism.
How can you allow this to happen?
If you don’t act now, you will be the next dictatorship.
It seems like we didn’t vote for this guy and he cheated his way to winning the election. He made suspicious comments about Elon Musk and how he helped with the election, mentioning something about how he’s really good with that technology. Which Musk also mentioned, claiming that Trump would never have been elected without him.
Then there’s an active lawsuit going on where several counties in New York state found that absolutely no one voted for Kamala Harris in their location during the election, despite having large groups of Democrat residents. Their electronic voting machines received patches right before voting started, which is highly suspicious. That’s being investigated right now.
It appears that the election was likely stolen and we have a president who was never elected. This is how fascist takeovers start, and unless people organize against the government, they’re just going to keep enabling this downfall of our country.
How can this guy be your president, US folks? It was absolutely well known.
Because millions of people didn’t care
Worse than that, millions of people actively chose this. AGAIN.
Millions of people were convinced by their media and algorithms that they didn’t care.
Hate is a hell of a drug. The religious people (primarily Christians) in our country are particularly susceptible to it. Trump pretends to be religious, and his cruelty is embraced by these types.
It’s just layers of indoctrination, basically. It’s not the majority of Americans, it’s around a third, but they vote in very high percentages, and the actual majority of Americans don’t vote.
So, we have this loud, delusional group with the most power right now purely because the majority of Americans don’t care to vote.

Media and propaganda. They are very powerfull. Greed as well.
- We didn’t really have a democratic choice
- Most of my countrymen are stupid and proud of it
- Most of the people who are aware of how bad it is are not willing to break the law or upset the status quo to fight it
- Reform and revolution take organization but that takes time and effort that most can’t afford.
- People who were aware of how bad things were and are getting have become exhausted and constantly feel powerless to the point they can’t find the strength to keep trying
Those with the time/wealth/power to do anything are too blind or unsympathetic to do anything real. Those without time and resources lack the resources to do anything influential without organization which they also lack the time and resources to create as well.
We’re already in a dictatorship. But you likely have time to stop your country from following suit. Make sure there are good guys left to beat the shit out of us in the end
Edit: to clarify, by “we didn’t have a democratic choice” I was referring to gerrymandering, vote suppression, and other things like winner take all states. I voted and I know there were a surprising number of people who voted blue despite being lifelong republicans. It didn’t do anything because we don’t have democracy.
I’m not USian, but from what analysts worth their salt would say, it is combination of-- but not limited to-- intentional dumbification of Americans, the opposition not really being opposition, the US Supreme Court legalising bribery, the atomisation and polarisation of American communities, de-industrialisation, growing wealth inequality and general corruption. These contributed to the growth of frustration and populism among the voters to vote for anyone who is “not establishment”. Someone who “tells it like it is” unlike most politicians who always do politician speak. In the minds of many Americans, Trump may be a grifter and a pervert, but they see him as genuine. If the democracy is a sham after all, might as well pull down the mask and show tje country for what it truly is. That’s why people say Trump is a symptom, not the cause. The same symptom is happening across the world which is why we’re getting the same far right populism.
Yeah it was pretty much inevitable, sooner or later. The same is true for several other countries whose citizens are here on Lemmy laughing at us or chastizing us about it, not realizing that the same thing is coming for them, too.
How can you allow this to happen?
I love how people ask questions like this, like we’re gods who can snap our fingers and magically stop the fascists who outnumber us. The number of people who wanted it to happen outnumbered the number of us who didn’t want it to happen. Simple as that. Can’t even blame the electoral college.
And those people still absolutely love him and will do anything for him and to keep him in power. The only option left after losing the election would be civil war, but even if enough people were ready to go all out and start one, we would lose that war because they have the government and its resources, including the military. That’s the problem with democracy, you see–majority rules and if the majority decides they don’t want a democracy any more, then it’s over.
~30% of the country really wanted to hurt other people because their lives were messed up, they weren’t rich, or they wanted to be richer.
Tldr: he draws the line at 12 years old
So, 13 is too old, huh?
Does he? He says he doesn’t want to be like Foley with 12 year olds. That’s not an answer.
I guess that’s true… He didn’t say anyone below 12, he just said he has no age limit, then added that 12, specifically, was an age he wasn’t interested in.
What an absolutely disgusting old man this guy is. He really is the personification of everything wrong with this country.
Release the list and investigate+arrest every fucking person on it.
look as much as I detest the guy, that’s not what was actually said
“Voice Over: There must be more to life than having everything,” the note began.
Donald: Yes, there is, but I won’t tell you what it is.
Jeffrey: Nor will I, since I also know what it is.
Donald: We have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey: Yes, we do, come to think of it.
Donald: Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?
Jeffrey: As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.
Trump: A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.
If I didn’t know any other context, I’d say these two were exploring each others brown starfish.
More than likely yes, and they were fucking children too.
Wtf? They’re very brazen.
The question was whether he had an age limit… a maximum age he would consider as a cutoff.
Trump went to the opposite extreme.
Makes you think.
Are you sure that’s not exactly what that number was?
Jesus Christ… His cut off is fucking TWELVE?!
Not exactly. The quote is:
I don’t want to be like Congressman Foley, with, you know, 12-year-olds.
So I guess his cutoff is 13 which is absolutely no better.
Twelve could be his upper limit
Or he just doesn’t like numbers that have a word equivalent, like “dozen” or “score”. So anything other than 12- or 20-year-olds is fine. Cue up Nate Bargatze as George Washington.
Naw 13 is when they start to look like his daughter
But he stops himself. What he really meant was “No, I have no age limit.”
Then again he rarely tells the truth
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Because he didn’t release the files, said they didn’t exist, and then said they were created by the democrats. It’s the Streisand effect. So people are applying pressure by finding what they can without him
I think it’s Elon.
Trump also pays outsized mind to social media in general and Twitter in particular.
The most common theory is it is push back from him trying to replace Powell.
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So which network billionaires does he rub elbows with?
You’re absolutely right. Truth doesn’t matter, networks push certain stories and remove other stories.
It went from locker room talk with him acting offended children were being harmed (also by “illegals”) to why won’t he release the records.
His baddy status is more confirmed.
I think trump is just a walking loyalty test. They’re allowing this to continue to make DAMN SURE of who’s willing to support him absolutely no matter what.
FUTURE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I don’t want to be like Congressman Foley, with, you know, 12-year-olds.
Was that Mark Foley? IIRC, he was caught with (male) Congressional Pages, who are older than 12. But the key thing about Foley was that he was caught. So I read this as “I don’t want to get caught with someone underage”…
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Classic projection, as with practically every other statement that flies out of that disgusting mouth of his.
I demand Trump be arrested
Ignoring the actual content of what he’s saying here for a minute, it’s amazing to hear how different his speech patterns were at this point. He’s actually capable of composing a single sentence. Now it sounds like he’s just creating a mashup of a bunch of unrelated sentences.
FUTURE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I don’t want to be like Congressman Foley, with, you know, 12-year-olds.
Ok, so thirteen and above. Now we know.
Who could do that to a twelve year old? I only beat and rape 13 year olds
If you put this in context to all of the other things he’s said and done, then it’s a no brainer that 12 is the bottom age.
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