Will someone explain, pls
Linux Mint 22.3 will be released in December of this year. Whereas Ubuntu 26.04 LTS will be released in April of 2026. When that happens, the focus will no longer be on LM, but on Ubuntu.
I don’t think that is the explanation.
More likely:
Linux Mint is based on the LTS variants of Ubuntu, so 26.04 LTS will threaten to make the current Mint base rapidly obsolete.
So the Mint team has hard times ahead switching to the new base.Mint should just switch to Debian as upstream, they already have LMDE anyway.
they can also base it off their previous relases becoming a hard fork like they started as.
TBF, it’s not the first time the LTS base changes, and it wasn’t a disaster at all.
Despite, there’s the Debian and Linux mint repos, as well as the entirety of flatpak.
It will be fine.
Most of Ubuntu is obsolete the day it’s released because of how Ubuntu is structured: the supported Main repository and the unsupported Universe repository (unsupported by Canonical and entirely relying on community members that backport bug fixes in accordance to Canonical’s strict version freeze rules).
So it’s a coin toss if Universe packages get updates at all and if they do in which time frame. Packages in Universe also are not release blocking, so breakages known ahead of release there are waved through, as happened only very recently with 25.10 and it’s broken Flatpak support.
So the majority of packages are unsupported and Mint insists to build a newbie targeting distribution out of this and carry ancient packages around for years. The Mint team is already having their hands full with replacing Snap software with their own deb packages, so they don’t have the capacity to deal with all Universe packages. Probably they hope that software for their user base gets updated by an unpaid Ubuntu community member and that unfixed packages are simply not used by their users.
I think it’s the moral duty of us more knowledgeable people to discourage the use of Mint. If someone wants a Mint distribution, better use LMDE. Otherwise something like a Fedora Spin is probably currently the best newbie friendly option these days.
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Well said. I appreciate you refining the context.
LTS variants get mainstream support for five years from release (24.04 gets support until 2029) and you can get extended support for up to another seven years after that (first five of which are free for up to 5 computers).
I wouldn’t call 8 years “rapidly obsolete”. That’s almost one full Windows. :P

Ubuntu has so many issues/awkwardness I don’t know why anyone would recommend it to a Mint user.
Mint gets recommended for its stability, low hardware requirements, and Windows-like UI. Ubuntu is no longer stable as they replaced half of the gnu coreutils by experimental Rust versions, requires a pretty fast internet connection and disk due to snaps, and has every element of the UI in a weird position for a Windows user.What focus?
I’m more referring to the hype that surrounds the launch of updates to popular distros, such as LM and Ubuntu. IMO it seems metrics like DistroWatch fluctuate around these releases.
I know it sounds silly.
lol i forgot that distro wars exist
If that’s unexpected for mint they have not been paying a lot of attention to provide Ubuntu release dates
Yeah, the focus will shift, but only the focus of the people who switch distros more often than their underwear.
I don’t think the actual user numbers change much due to things like this.
It’s a straight red. You cannot leave your feet like that especially for a two footed tackle. Match ban plus possible further punishment after a pgmol influenced review of the play.
Mint controlled and poised, Ubuntu just sending it miles away from the target.
sorry, the clip is AI brainrotted, but this is the moment from the meme https://youtube.com/shorts/9hR_e_xnYZY
No offense, but you guys are nerds.

fair
Pretty sure us Mint enjoyers don’t give AF because our distro is for people who just want things to work.
Ew. I’m that guy. So, you’re saying, if someone was finally ready to ditch the corpos, now is not the time to go mint? Apologies for my lack of understanding, but still genuine interest in the topic.
There’s nothing wrong with Mint and there’s never been a better time to move to Linux.
Mint is ugly and they are way behind the n Wayland adoption. Their updater annoys me because you have to double-shot it by updating the update then running it again to get the updates the old updater couldn’t install.
Otherwise it’s fine.
Explore fedoras options instead, in particular the KDE ones if you are coming from windows.
There are subjective reasons to not like Mint just like there are for every distro.
I, personally, would not use Mint. But it’s great for a lot of folks.
Mint is a glorious debloat of Ubuntu with several extras and are strategically wise in having LMDE ready and in production. They fill a very important role as an user-friendly not-DIY distro suitable for someone completely unfamiliar with Linux. I wouldn’t describe Fedora that way. It changes too fast for that use case and compared to Mint comes with not much preinstalled.
as a mint user im only really waiting on keyboard layouts to go use Wayland.
Okay long story time. I’m drunk and chatty.
Wayland is in an incredibly weird place right now. It’s definetly the way forward and there literally nothing X11 does better other than having already had bugs worked out. The approach is much more responsible and flexible in the best possible ways. The devs got a demonstration of what worked and what didn’t and made all their decisions based on that.
I prefer it for mischief.
Picture this. You become “the computer guy” for a bunch of old people in your city. They don’t care how it works. They just want porn and Facebook. They hire you because you don’t care about the Vaseline on the desk. The mouse is clean so you don’t judge. They also hate the new windows and can’t afford a Mac and they are also constantly getting hit by scammers.
So I install Linux.
This is fun for multiple reasons. First I flash a couple flash drives and say “what do you do with your computer?” I boot into each of the most common distros at the time and watch how they use the machine. I study them trying to use the machine and see how they think, how they are trying to tell the machine what they want it to do. I tell them at this stage we are testing and I won’t offer help. I only want to see what is simplest for them. Which one needs the least explanation. The results are always surprising. I ask the what was the least scary and answer their questions they get their Linux distro.
They are always happier. There has only ever been ONE time they still stuck with windows. (They hated it but insisted they needed it because that’s what “people with money used”. There’s an HOA, and quicken, and….dont ask.). They don’t need me very often after. They understand the thing and what they don’t I change the machine to fit them instead of changing them to fit the machine. I come back after several years after the hardware fails and they beg me “make it work like the last one.”
I’ve been doing this for years and it’s been fantastic. Linux is a community with a great diversity of thought and execution and you can find some genius developers who think the same way that out of touch geriatric has been for 80 years. It’s very satisfying to see them using their computer in a relaxed state and almost saying they “feel heard” that someone made a machine that works the way they think. and every time I have to explain I didn’t make it, there’s many people much smarter than me that did and it did it that way because they think and work the same way. On a personal level, it’s very satisfying. They get to see they aren’t so alone and I get to be a small part of that.
and then Wayland happens.
And the priorities of development paint a fascinating picture. Things don’t get all done at the same time, especially in the Linux community. We aren’t Apple pretending to be….apple. Projects are always migrating toward some other idea. Developers focus on the priorities that matter. Wayland changes things behind the scenes in ways that are completely unimportant to the user. The desktop environment is still exactly what they want.
But for the remote access scammers who wish to do my users harm, I just ruined their day.
They don’t have a script that covers 11 different flavors of Linux. They don’t have any understanding of how this particular machine works. And the user only knows enough to use it themselves. They don’t know enough to help the scammer. And even in 2025, many of the remote access tools scammer use have not been updated for Wayland, which means they are not going to work in a way that helps scammers.
So the scam always falls apart. I roll back to a filesystem snapshot just before the last scam call received on their phones. I tell them to sign up for incogni and a year later charge their phone number. The scammers never get anywhere and I get tipped off from the user because “the tech support guy didn’t seem to know how to use my computer and I thought that was weird, so I called you.” The scammers rarely bother these people twice.
And they keep paying me to come back because this approach WORKS.
And the wayland transition is a big part of why this works.
Wayland devs, you were right. This transition matters. It does help people and it ways you don’t expect.
Back to my point. I hate mint. I fucking hate it as much as C developers hate rust. But I also respect that some of my users are made VERY happy by it. It’s trying to catch up but for now it doesn’t need to solve my problems. It needs to solve THEIR problems. And it does.
And that’s what makes this community so fun to be part of. Even in my small capacity.
Sorry for the long post. There’s a lot going on right now for me and the Linux community is one of those few collectives I’m so grateful hasn’t been perverted into something terrible yet.
it’s fine, i lile to read long posts once in a while. also what do you specifically hate about mint?
There are three issues I have with it.
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It’s 2025. If you aren’t fully compatible with Wayland you aren’t being conservative, you are just behind.
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The file manager, desktop layout and interaction, taskbar and launcher are damn near perfect. They things that are immediately obvious and simple enough to see what they were going for, how they were thinking, that I can get a sort of organically understand and appreciate it. So those interactions rapidly become like muscle memory. The windows and dialogs are ugly and poorly conceived. They are basically polishing a turd with those. It’s the giant disconnect between interacting with those elements I find jarring. I can go back and forth with multiple platforms all day and be fine until a machine with cinnamon loads up and then it feels like a series of microaggressions. It’s like my mother made a GUI. If I skip thanksgiving because of her, I can just as easily skip mint.
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The updater is a running gag at this point. Everywhere else in Linux the general flow is having th package manager compare what you have to the current list, then you install the changes. Many GUIs blend those steps together so they seem like one thing to do. Then there is mint. Mint has you run an update, which updates the updater. Then you run the new updater to get your actual updates. This extra step is pointless and feels like updating a legacy windows machine where you have to have all the prerequisite updates installed before you get to what you actually wanted done and there is absolutely zero excuse for a Linux machine to have this problem this far along.
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No. Absolutely go with Mint. It’s sensible, stable, and familiar. Ubuntu has its weirdnesses. Mint has gone through LTS changes before. It was fine. More than fine. It’s one of the friendliest distributions around, and one I feel no reservations recommending to someone switching from Windoze.











