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Hurts too much to make me laugh.
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Oh, this reminds me. I was asked to go to a Chiropractic “doctor” this weekend for a check up. That’s nonsense to begin with, but I went anyway.
She asked about my back hurting, and I mentioned that I threw it out really badly when I got COVID a year or two ago, and was stuck in bed coughing super hard for a week. Her immediate response was “I’ve heard the vaccine can do that.”
… Like, fucking what? How god damn stupid do you have to be to hear “I threw my back out coughing really hard.” and instantly try to insert your anti-science bullshit into the conversation?
Chiropractor. Stupid. Anti-science bullshit.
You repeat yourself.
Oh man it gets worse. Medicine is so fucked now.
My (telehealth) doctor noted my testosterone is a little low and suggested I use another online practitioner for testosterone replacement therapy since they can’t do that from their practice.
She gave me a few places to check out (from her companies list, she didn’t personally vet them).
They all have some anti-science bullshit or “As seen on JRE/Infowars”.
I’m like…yeah, I’m not doing any of that. I’ll try diet, exercise, and proper sleep first. I’m not giving any of them my money, patronage, or information.
I had the same thing except from an in-clinic consult about my general health.
Testosterone supplementing was presented like “Well levels vary to each man but some do a little better with more so it could help your endurance and energy levels.”
Ok sure, why not? They’re a doctor right? Trust experience? Trust science? All that?
I got a shot 2 or 3 times but then quit it. I’m so freaking glad I did, after I discovered all these accounts about it causing heart problems, possibly reproductive issues, and all this other crap. It was difficult to find someone who was actually glad they did it.
Happy with the hormone levels I’ve got, thank you very much.
I felt so scammed, like I was just used as some “lead” for another clinic to profit from me over something that potentially would cause a ton of long-term harm.
Gross, definitely fuck them.
It makes total sense from a cynical profit-first standpoint though. Where can I get the best bang for my buck reaching damaged young men who desire so much to be manly and alpha, but feel so inadequate inside they must do something about it? And they have to be conditioned to eat up bullshit they want to hear.
When looking for a pediatrician for my kid, we shopped around because we don’t want an idiot treating them. One doctor’s nurse looked us straight in the eyes and said “We follow a strict vaccine schedule for children, will you have a problem with that?”.
Yeah, we found our pediatrician that day.
I was super mad when I went to a new dentist after my last one retired and he prescribed me homeopathic medicine.
I hope you used homeopathic payment.
Given them payment in diluted dollar water.
“I set this bottle of dasani by a bank for like three months so it would absorb the essence of currency. Don’t trust ‘big money’ out there with their ‘coke covered paper.’ This is organic! Water is natural!”
Shells and crystal rocks
A chiropractor once gave my mom homeopathic pills. I was a kid and didn’t even know what homeopathy was at the time, but she gave me one and I said, “mom, this is sugar.” She tried to argue with me about it and I kept telling her I know what sugar tastes like.
Nicely done. The best case scenario is sugar. Most of the time, it’s nothing but water, and maybe a single drop of 100x already diluted more water, that maybe once had something non-water in it. That is, of course, assuming the machines doing the literal magic shaking didn’t spill the “active ingredient”.
I’m curious. What for? Something non-dental the dentist noticed or something dental-related?
I have a perio and ortho, and the perio also was my hygienist; but the hygienist noticed something odd with a tooth, concerned about it, said I should consult a general dentist - due to having seen a perio, ortho and hygienist regularly I let my general dentist lapse, found they had retired and I wasn’t on books any more, went to the nearest dentist, in-network, 4* reviews - he looked at it, said, “ah yeah, i see the issue. use this mouthwash and gel on it once daily”
it was like $50
I happily used it for a week before I was standing there swishing and actually read the label and saw “not endorsed by the FDA” and was like “whattttt” then saw it was homeopathic
well you can imagine I spit that mouthwash straight out without swallowing
I don’t suppose you remember what the magical ingredients were in those products? Call it morbid curiosity.
You know now that I think about it, I’m not sure how much of dental products are actually FDA approved. I think they might fit into a weird zone where they’re not technically medication or food so FDA doesn’t really look too closely. Dental machinery and appliances for sure need to be FDA-approved, but mouthwash and toothpaste I’m not so sure about. I’m fairly sure the active ingredients within mouthwash and toothpaste, such as fluoride, need to have FDA approval before they can be used, but I don’t think the toothpaste or mouthwash itself needs FDA approval. I think for the most part the FDA oversees marketing claims and manufacturing standards for toothpaste/mouthwash, whereas the American Dental Association (ADA) is the body that “approves” them.
No worries. The appointment was set for me by a local government agency. That’s about all I wanna say about it, though.
If you want a bone medic go to the traumatologist, not those shaman-like chiropractors
A shaman would be a step up because I don’t think shamans actively make anything worse.
And they have magic
You say they dont make anything actively worse, until you don’t pay attention to them for a split second and they all gather in one place, collectively and ritualisticaly unalive themselves to combine their souls to be reborn as a single entity, to then rise as a warlord to wage a brutal unification war on earth, announce themselves emperor and set out to conquer the galaxy only to be betrayed and killed by half his children wich leaves his empire and therefore humanity in shambles!!
Trust me, it wasn’t my choice.
I was a teenager and was having back issues. My mother sent me to a chiropractor, which I didn’t know was a bunch of bullshit back then. She took an X-ray of my spine (how is that legal?) and told me she’d fix the issue in my upper back. I told her the pain was in my lower back and she kept insisting that no, it was an upper back problem that I needed to be treated for.
And that was when I realized it was all bullshit.
Now I know that it was come up with by a guy who said he got the information from a ghost. Seriously.
How did you not just walk out of there?
I honestly thought I might have to, but it took months to get the appointment, and I didn’t want to have to wait all over again and just hope I got a better location next time.
I don’t get why anyone would want to be a chiropractor.
Nurse: 4 years of schooling, high salary (yes it should be higher), useful to everyone around you in medical situation, good benefit packages, respected, and you can do so much with that degree.
Chiropractor: 6 years of schooling, salary is low, useless in a medical situation, terrible benefits, not respected, and the only thing you can do with that degree is what you “trained” for.
Become a nurse instead!
The fact that Chiropractic is pseudoscience; realigning your spine to allow magical spirit energy to flow better, because they think every single aliment from acne to cancer is caused by blocked chi flow, isn’t enough?
Are you saying a ghost can be wrong? ;)
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Measles, that old-timey disease we didn’t really think about as kids because of vaccinations. Welp, that’s coming back. Thanks to fucking idiots.
“BUT MAH FREEDOMS!”
They’re free to die however they choose. Or however death chooses them.
That’d be fine if they didn’t infect people who can’t protect themselves and didn’t ask for it. Plus it would have been cool to have wiped another disease off the face of the planet.
I gained the superpower of crippling anxiety, depression and panic attacks. I had very mild anxiety prior to Covid, but something broke in my brain after I got sick.
I am anxious and yet constantly tired. I can barely function before noon and can’t shut my brain off to sleep.
I hat every fucking person on Earth who said it was bs.
I’ve been feeling the same way. Some days I’ve felt better, but I don’t really get back to where I was. It feels like my discipline has broken down.
You sound a little like me.
Give liposomal C plus L-Arginine a try.
There’s been some studies showing it helps with long COVID.
I feel a little improvement. Not great. Some.
You might as well recommend some healing crystals or magnetic wristbands.
@Gerudo@lemm.ee should speak to a doctor about possible treatments and not take random unproven advice from the internet.
So, an innocuous supplement treatment, with multiple legitimate studies is the same as healing crystals? Got it.
Not everything in the world is horse parasite quackery.
My doctor did review the studies and agreed it was worth trying given the lack of known long COVID treatments.
an innocuous supplement treatment
Healing crystals are an innocuous treatment that have been involved in multiple studies also, so yes.
Let’s not dwell on the outcome or legitimacy of those studies at all, for either treatment.
Your doctor did a review? Such a nice claim to authority there with zero evidence. It is nice that everything and everyone on the internet can be trusted.
I stand by my statement. Anyone suffering medical issues should seek help from a medical professional and ignore random internet advice.
I was assaulted by a family member for not giving “IV Ivermectin” to someone with COVID who I had just crash intubated (honestly thought they were going to code, but somehow didn’t) back during the Delta wave.
My view of humanity has gotten pretty pessimistic since COVID. If I had the guts I’d honestly love to go create an insulated community of people who actually think about stuff and want to help each other.
My views on humanity fell off a cliff in 2016. I’ve always been pretty cynical but that was rock bottom. Imagine my surprise that there was another cliff to fall off of in 2020. And the worst that happened to me was getting called “genocidal” because I don’t believe “why not, maybe it works” is scientific enough to justify giving everyone ivermectin.
It is completely despicable to attack a healthcare professional because they don’t agree with the conspiracy theory of the day. Let alone a family member. I’m sorry they decided to do that to you.
All this because a lone dimwit didn’t want cloth masks to muss his makeup.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
I have a pretty high tolerance for disrespect (either from patients or other specialties) since I work in Emergency Medicine, but COVID was just off the charts.
I nearly got assaulted by another staff member, sort of defended myself from it by just shoving him away and creating distance, and then I ended up on a disciplinary over it. Despite everything he’d seen he still thought he was hard-done by and tried to take it out on myself. I had an exemplary record for nearly 28 years up until then.
No need to create such a community - there’s one ready-made in Iceland! They even had a vet (animal kind not military kind) who was on top of the vaccine research in the early days.
I still see “heroes work here” banners outside of healthcare facilities and nursing homes. I imagine a number of the low-paid and overworked staff say “fuck you, pay me more” every time they drive by too.
I created an extremely awkward silence at work when someone was like “are you all clapping at 7pm?” (Because there was a thing where people could clap and cheer for workers at 7pm?), and I said “if you really care, you could give them money. They need that more than claps”.
Silence.
These were all software developers working safely from home making six figures.
They’ll all be there with thoughts and prayers… and apparently claps. I mean, I know that’s what “I” do whenever someone wants money from me… I’ll think about them, pray I’m never in that circumstance, and clap for them. Seems to help.
That’s sarcasm… for anyone instantly seething and spitting foam.
The awkward silence is because they know that clapping is not doing anything useful.
What was really annoying was other industries saying the same thing. There was a laundry that had “heros work here” on their sign, as if they were anywhere near the same level.
That’s the thing everyone who had to stay at work in public took a considerable risk, liki the employees at the grocery store. They deserve a lot of praise, and no one cares.
They deserve praise and a living wage
Imagine having to go to work every day knowing you’re risking your life and making at best just above minimum wage.
I asked someone in the industry once that exact same thing, and the answer I got back was basically you don’t do this job for the money, you do it for the people.
Now granted, being able to pay your mortgage would take some stress off you, especially when you get so much stress at work, but still, a lot of people do it for non-income reasons.
And for the record, them (and teachers, while we are at it) should be paid a lot more than they do get paid.
Just the extra money on top of the standard unemployment was significantly more income than they made by saying at work too.
No. This is the wrong thinking imo.
I worked/work for a hospital Trust here in the UK. Any job that brings you within close proximity to other people had a quantifiable risk. Hindsight is great and all that, but in the early days of any pandemic you dont know what you can touch safely, where you can breath safely. Our Government tried to bail some out, but not everyone can get help or close shop. Anyone who was afraid and still struggled through it gets my respect.
It’s got to be pretty god damn insulting for sure.
Also would have accepted the meme with the Muppet like puppets being asked "and what did we learn?’ and they all scream “Nothing!!”
I wonder if it would’ve been on net better if COVID had been deadlier. Like if people had been dying from a new disease with blood gushing out of their eyes, would idiots have taken it seriously? Probably not.
The funniest thing is watching all those pandemic/deadly virus movies before 2021. In all those movies, governments, people, scientists, the military and world leaders all work cooperatively together in an orderly way to solve the problem and try to save people and in the end succeed because they worked together.
In reality, we had a world leader suggest that we could inject disinfectant or use UV light inside the body, panic buying for toilet paper and people in North America start near riots for being asked to wear a mask.
It was a lot more like Jaws where the mayor won’t close the beach to save lives because it will mess with the tourism business.
Not long before covid took off, the first case of ebola in the US was confirmed and people flipped the fuck out. I’m fairly certain that if ebola were actually spreading even a little, those same assholes who treated masks like some kind of human rights violation would have been more than ready to quarantine it, lock everything down, and burn the entire affected area to the ground.
Some of those people would have formed a militia to hunt down anyone who they suspected of being infected. It would have been a long, drawn out, paranoid massacre.
There actually were lots of people who started out being like “they are sweeping it under the rug wel are all going to die!” Only to turn around and become anti mask zealots when the public policy controls went into place. Some people really do just have a very childish take on authority of any kind, and I say that as a person who is very skeptical of authority myself.
I’ve given thought that covid was right in the bad spot of seriousness. If it was less deadly, it would be less of an issue. If it was more deadly, it would have been taken more seriously. But it was right at the point that people could say ehhhhhh (encouraged by their media of course).
Although I’m still amazed over a fucking million Americans dead and people are acting like it didn’t even happen.
I can’t believe people are falling for Trump’s “Four years ago you were better off” bullshit
Even if I wasn’t better off financially now, not having that shitstain as president would make be much better off overall.
I mean I’m better off financially, but to be fair that’s because of the labor shortage Covid created being so bad that the local power plant started hiring part-time entry level.
I mean… yeah… I say “Labor Shortage”, but I mean “The Labor Force Realizing That They’re Working For Too Little For It To Be Worth It!”
But hey I’m poor as fuck, I’ll take what I can get… I’m just grateful I finally escaped retail.
I can’t believe people still adore T@&#! after he has repeatedly grifted them, lied to them, demonstrated time and again he has no empathy and is a horrible human all around.
He grifted us over medical supplies during a pandemic. He damn near ended our democracy and became a dictator. His list of retributions he has declared if he gets elected is terrifying. Racist and classiest as hell.
And they ignore everything and just parrot the " hE iS pRo LIfE!" BS
April, 2020 unemployment was almost 14%
Worked through this myself. Not as a nurse or care assistant, but as an NHS binman. Still saw lots of shit I basically cant talk about (not due to emotion but due to Trust policy as its a bit too specific). Saw doctors, nurses, care assistants walking around like zombies after having worked 18 hours straight. Saw morons walk in and film them thinking there was some major conspiracy. Heard the lungs of patients rattling as they struggled to breath. Two workers I knew died. Heard from colleagues how some other morons had “served legal papers” on the staff (thats not how you get “served” here btw) and then saw it on the BBC 6 oclock news. I also saw the hard work of every delivery driver, supermarket worker.
What did I learn? That some people will fight to save your life, even if you’ve not taken heed of all the advice.
I have a two year old niece now. I’m reminded of when I was a kid in the early 80s and war veterans would come and talk to us about WW2 and Korea. I am thinking it would be good if some of us did the same for these kids in a few years. If we went and talked about what we saw, not the scary/nasty stuff, but the stuff that makes people hopeful for humanity.
I currently live in a province in Canada, that is currently ruled by a government that is governing under what’s basically an MO of Covid and vaccine revenge.
There’s no hope for humanity. Absolutely none. That’s my lesson from Covid. The majority of the people around me, my neighbours, etc, are basically all incapable of logical thought and highly susceptible to disinformation and rogue actors.
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I have to admit, before Covid i didn’t think people would be joining the war on disease on the side of disease in any meaningful numbers and yet here we are. I think we may be in decline as a civilization, not sure how that kind of brain rot is survivable.
It’s very survivable, the same way we’ve always survived - if you see a moron saying that sort of shit, punch them in the face.
Their heads are like rocks. You’ll just break your hand.
This pretty well sums it up. It’s hard to believe it’s been four years. It used to feel like it’d been ongoing for forever. Now it feels like a dream. What a fucked up thing we went through and how fucked is it that my brain can just sort of “forget”. I guess that’s how we cope. It isn’t evolutionarily advantageous to dwell on the real threats. Only on the stupid social fuckups that happened that embarrassed me.
Why are you talking about it like it’s over? Roughly 30000 people are getting long covid per day, right now. That shit is disabling. We’re still in a pandemic and we’re not taking it seriously, at all.
Just to say, as a hospital worker, that Covid is still very much around. Its not killing in the same numbers but it does kill many. Many who will be missed by their loved ones. Covid still leads to long covid in some.
I truly think there is a component of unprecedented, shared psychological distress (everyone needing to stay inside like solitary confinement) and post-COVID cognitive distortion that makes the entire pandemic feel like some sort of fugue state. I was working in healthcare during it and when I look back at those years it feel like someone that was a dream. I’m in my 30s and no other part of my life feels like that.
It’s amazing how quickly we adapt and forget. But when I stop and think about it life was so different before Covid and it’s just never been the same. My workplace has just never been able to adjust to the staffing shortages and it’s hell.
Turns out conservatism was the real plague all along.
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That escalated quickly.
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Covid awareness? On Lemmy? Getting over a thousand points? It feels like I’m in a dream.
Reminder to everyone that wearing a well fitting n95 mask in public takes very little effort but helps others (who may be immunocompromised, already battling long covid or other conditions, or otherwise vulnerable) and yourself avoid getting sick which can save people from chronic pain, disability, death, and more. Please do what you can to take precautions and prevent the spread of disease!
