So… SCOTUS decides in Trump’s favor, Biden has him assassinated, Biden wins election.
Trump is arguing that this will be OK, right? Right?
I wish someone would confront Trump about that during an interview. “So, do you have an armed guard, because you’re saying Biden can legally kill you?”
And then far right media would parrot for weeks that Biden actually wants to kill Trump. If they did what they did for a “stolen election” imagine what they would do if they had “reason” to suspect that Trump could be assassinated at Bidens wish
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
That’s their favorite stance. Because then they can claim moral righteousness. If you can’t get an upper hand logically, the next is emotionally.
They would recognize worthy opponents
I’d be pretty surprised if there were a private security option capable of holding off the military, if the president really wanted someone dead and had the legal go-ahead.
I’d be really surprised if Trump could afford them.
Then there’s the military’s ‘knife bomb’…
“While other versions of the Hellfire take out targets in the expected ways — through explosive force or with shrapnel — the R9X crushes or slices a target to death. It is essentially a flying bundle of swords that can kill the occupant of a car without harming people around the vehicle.”
How SOCOM’s secret ‘knife bomb’ became the prime weapon for killing hard-to-reach terrorists
You’ve also forgotten the easiest method - simply bribing (or in this case ordering, as the Secret Service still answers to Biden regardless of the fact that they protect Trump, AFAIK) someone close to him to kill him.
He’s a broke bitch, owes half a billion in foreign loans alone. On another note, what kind of security force would be willing to suicide for him? His cult45? They have a combined IQ of an air conditioned room, the military would take them out like mowing your grass.
Bizarrely there are, that’s what black water essentially is, a paramilitary group that can hold off a military. If you think it’s insane that we allow private companies own their own military, well it is. They of course not allowed to operate on US soil, but they exist.
Even Russia has laws against this, it’s kind of nut USA allows it. Of course, Russian law is one thing and wagers existence shows how well that law is followed. But even the Russian founders understood having a private military is insane.
*Edit arguably, Putin flaunting the law and creating Wagner is a reason he became a dictator and what the country was trying to prevent when they made the laws.
The fact you called them Blackwater (haven’t gone by that name since 2009) and posit that they’re more capable than the US military is farcical.
Blackwater was so dogged by scandal after scandal they change to ‘Xe’, then ‘Academi’, before being bought out by a real Private Security company - TripleCanopy.
And former SF pipe hitters in the ranks of PMCs or not, it’s the logistics and intelligence capabilities of the US military that enables them to be so lethal, which PMCs significantly lack.
Former presidents get lifetime security detail as a benefit.
I’m aware. I’m not sure what exactly the secret service is going to do about a salvo of hellfire missiles. If the president of the US wants you dead and isn’t legally restrained I certainly wouldn’t trade places with you.
Hey, three hookers and an eight-ball will keep that USSS detail busy. No problemo.
This is why they are delaying it until after the election. If Biden wins, they continue to stretch out the trial until Trump dies because of his old age and bad health, then go, “Well the defendant is dead so no reason to rule on this”, leaving it open until they get another chance
If Trump wins, then they rule in Trump’s favour with the trial suddenly going at breakneck speed
Well Trump will obviously wait until he’s installed himself as a dictator in perpetuity before making this ok
SCOTUS would just argue it isn’t an official act if Biden does it.
Technically Biden would have to shoot the man himself, anyone he could order to do it either cannot legally and would basically just be eating the legal bullet for him even though he’s not in danger of it, or they have a legal duty to refuse the order.
The Democratic Party is the exact kind of stupid to have it ruled that a President can assassinate political rivals, refuse to use the power, lose the election, and then act surprised when they all get executed.
This is exactly what will happen. If there is a ruling that the president can do whatever the fuck, this democracy is done. You’d hope to see Biden go down with the ship shooting from the bow. Unfortunately he wouldn’t. Dems will be trying to handshake across the aisle until they are executed the afternoon of Jan. 20th.
God I wish they would just be more blunt:
“So according to you, Biden can kill you? If you say yes then hitmen will be on their way”
I’m sure I’ll backfire but god damn it’s annoying when they try to be civil against bad faith actors.
That’s how fascists play the game, they act ridiculous because the other guy cares too much about decorum and being polite to question the absurdity, so they just go along with it.
Exactly. Us lefties gotta take note but so it better lol
It’s up to us to be better than them. It’s never been easy, it will be frustrating, but it’s the only way to keep some decency in society.
This has value sometimes. But there are also times where the Democrats take this to an extreme where it borders self-flagellation, rather than a coherent civic value. For example, Republicans in Texas are capable of organizing a parallel military that will challenge the Federal government, and even though the Federal government had the legal right to dismantle it, liberals are far too concerned with appearances to do anything about it. When does this attitude of “decorum above all” end? Before or after fascists begin public lynchings? It’s not an attitude that is applied the same in all directions, either. Why are democrats far more eager to cast doubt into the legitimacy of anti-war protestors than in fighting against fascists challenging the State monopoly of violence?
Yeah, I’m not saying we need to self-flagellate.
It’s just more so I have seen a lot more people on the left getting far too aggressive lately. The amount of people that seem to want violence as an answer is staggering. We should be working towards civilized solutions, and only resort to violence when we must. I believe that we still have options for handling a lot of the issues in our country peacefully, even if those options are dwindling.
Does Trump realize that if he “wins” that particular argument, that would empower Biden to have Trump killed without consequence? Or the supreme court justices he rammed into the court? Or his voters?
Oh wait… republicans are utterly incapable of forseeing potential consequences of what they want nm.
Does Trump realize that if he “wins” that particular argument, that would empower Biden to have Trump killed without consequence?
As of today, Trump has been held in contempt of court 10 times, with the judge explicitly stating “The last thing I want to do is put you in jail”.
This is a guy who has been so utterly swaddled from consequences that I genuinely do not believe he feels threatened by the prospect of extra-judicial assassination by a political rival. Liberals are Woke and Soy. They don’t have the cajones to pull the trigger. And I’ve seen little to suggest he’s wrong in this belief. The police are far more willing to crack the heads of Columbia liberal arts students than MAGA Chuds. And the courts have been incredibly lenient towards J6ers, particularly those with the money and influence to plead favorable terms in court.
Meanwhile, Epic MAGA Dudes run rampant through JSOC, the FBI, and the Secret Service. If anything, this is a threat against Biden. Combined with the claim that he’s the legitimate president and was robbed of his second term, this line of reasoning is intended to carve a legal path for a coup from friends in the military and police.
That is why they are trying to push the decision until after the election. If Trump wins, the president has full immunity to do whatever he wants. If Biden wins they’ll likely say the president can be held accountable for their actions as president.
This is correct. Constitutional Originalism somehow means that what the Constitution has always said depends on who is elected in 2024.
Do you really think Joe Biden would order Trump killed
Lol…Dems would meet the bullet halfway… And anyone who wasn’t willing to make that compromise would be a radical progressive
I dream of a murder-suicide at a debate.
Suicide vest.
Joe’s last wotds: “For all of you that said Biden blows, ain’t seen nothing yet.”
KABOOM
Has anyone suggested contracting it to Boeing?
No but it does force republicans to contort themselves into a pretzel to defend that decision given their rhetoric about democrats.
More likely theyll just point to it as a reason to never cede power because they’re unrepentant ghouls.
I don’t know why you are characterizing this as a republican blunder. It makes perfect sense.
The Republicans know the Democrats’ obsession with civility means a dem would never invoke this prospective right to assassinate a political rival.
“But the Republicans are being illogical! This is a double standard! There is no intellectual honesty in such an argument!”
Stop trying to appeal to logic and honesty when it comes to Republicans. This liberal thinking is what got Trump elected the first time.
Accept that morals, ethics, and logic mean nothing to fascists before it is too late.
I swear, the patriot front could be doing door-to-door curb stomps once trump gets elected, and liberals would still be smugly pointing out that “violence is no way to solve political issues, chud. Check and mate ;)”, right before they get curb stomped.
But when you tell “leftists” to get armed and get trained they call you an NRA shill. I guess all the armed MAGAts foaming at the mouth to get rid of trans kids and drag queens isn’t much to worry about when mommy’s basement is so warm and cozy.
Get fucking armed, leftists. Read the poem, socialists were first against the wall in Germany.
Repubs are incapable of seeing consequences, but in this particular case they know that Biden won’t do it and they are correct.
The claim is also in perpetuity of the title, not just while holding office.
If this passes, Obama needs to walk right up to Trump, and slap him like a bitch.
Would love to hear the followup question, “If the president decides a supreme court justice is a corrupt person…”
That was entirely my point I made a couple weeks ago. If they move ahead on that decision, then Biden would be within his rights to have the consenting judges hung and replace them, hanging any members of congress or senators that tried to block the appointments. Then he could ask that court to reconsider the decision, and he would have been immune for these actions that occurred during the hiatus of accountability.
Seems like a fairly straightforward solution.
There is no stopping the justices from putting big caveats around their ruling.
It could be “in this very specific case with this very specific person at this very specific time we agree that the president is immune from prosecution. Any other acts by this or any other president are not included in this ruling.”
If the president can order a drone strike from across the world, why can’t it be against his political opponents at home.
Optics.
Okay, but - hypothetically - lets assume we have a large base of supporters who take indescribable glee in watching police crack the skulls of college students and pink-hatted feminists. Lets assume we have governors and mayors who surround themselves with paramilitary groups, while threatening to lock up anyone who voices dissent. And all these politicians win in landslide elections in their home states, because the shrinking pool of eligible voters is comprised more and more of these fanatics.
What then?
We become Bestest Korea
What would be wild is if the “legal” justification they landed on was that the president specifically is immune but not the people under him. So you’d just have to hand Biden or Trump a handgun and watch them march up to someone and kill them because no police or military has the authority to stop the president
Obviously I don’t want to live in that world but at least then we’re living in a crazy movie dystopia which might at least be more fun to watch
Let’s let Joe have it. He’s old, he deserves it. How many fatalities can he even get before the long night takes him? 3? 4?
Come on, Joe, invite Tucker and Alex Jones to dinner.
And wouldn’t anyone in the line of succession to the presidency just be able to kill all those in front of them to take the
throneseat of president, thus becoming immune from the act of killing their predessesors?Biden/Trump/Whoever is president could simply officially order one of his top officers to push a button that drops a hellfire missile on their political opponent and then pardon them. The President is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces and also has the executive privilege of pardon available to them at their discretion for any reason or no reason at all. I’m 100% sure the president will find somebody in the chain of command with morals flexible enough to obey such an order.
And since you can’t go after the man himself because a corrupt SCOTUS is apparently poised to rule that they have immunity for “official acts” which is a nebulously defined term that can apply to literally any heinous act that they want, the country has essentially created a king by proxy.
Been time to kick those justices out and put some fresh ones in
Execute the ones that vote yes.
Too effective of a strategy for a Dem to pursue.
Totes legal, I guess 🤷
Man at did point we really are gonna find out some art teacher shamed Trump’s interest in painting.
“You used far too much orange!”, the teacher said. And the rest is history…
Its not an art teacher, it’s his dad who hated him and loved Fred until Fred fucked up in business (being compassionate) at which point his dad basically disowned his brother and took Donald as his heir. His brother later drank himself to death because of the way his dad treated him and is the reason Donald doesn’t drink.
This is real, we’re dealing with a wannabe dictator with daddy issues and he has millions of followers.
Correct. They all want a strong daddy figure, it makes sense its just very dumb.
There is also that parallel fascination with stimulants.
remember kids, both sides are the same.
Nice flair
/s
That might be true, but the gays are turning the frogs gay! Enough is enough! Maga 2024 /s
We get the president from “Escape from L A”
He also might be The Thing. That’s just what I’m hearing, lots of people are saying it.
Ya, so its super important that Biden doesnt COMPLETELY shit the bed and disenfranchise the sweeping majority of American liberals. Right?
I think all the smart liberals and leftists have realized an immunity ruling would be used against them.
Yeah, but we’re talking about the Democratic leadership.
The most dangerous game
The hunting of Man happens with Trump’s homeless policy.
