Capybaras are classified as fish in Catholic canon law, on the grounds that they spend their lives in water. I’m guessing that a party of conquistadors was on the verge of starvation and got their priest to petition the Vatican to issue a retroactive ruling in their favour.
Iirc, both Jewish and Islamic law are explicit that if you can break kosher/eating halal if you have no other options for food. Keeping yourself alive is more important.
Is there not something similar in catholic theology?
In Catholic doctrine you can break literally all rules except denouncing the holy spirit, if you confess and repent afterwards.
I’m kinda tempted to go to a catholic priest, tell them my full life story and see if they could even come up with penance for me. Like as a gay trans man, I imagine I’d be told to detransition but I’m far enough along that I can’t really go back - I’m not even sure what they’d consider a sin at this point.
The current pope is pretty lenient towards LGBTQ+ compared to most other religions and especially compared to old school Catholic pope’s. Jesus was a man of peace and the current pope seems to think that was his ultimate message for mankind.
Careful, priest might get his scissors out
Not a Catholic but fairly knowledgeable about the religion. I believe your transition would be accepted as long as you don’t live in sin by performing any acts of sodomy. The Catholics study theology relentlessly, and I’m sure they already had a way of dealing with the fair number of intersex babies born without dooming them to a life spent in unintentional sin.
The church has never expressed an issue with homosexuality, only homosexual acts. And even those acts aren’t a sin due to the homosexual intent, they’re a sin because of the sodomy.
Remember though, sodomy is a blanket term here for “sex acts not capable of producing children” so for you that would be… All of them I suppose.
I suspect that the suggested answer would be the one they give to all gay men, for you to live as a man, but be celibate. Devote your life to God, maybe even become a monk back in the old days. A lot of monks were “confirmed bachelors”
You can save yourself from all of them, there is no irredeemable sin in any Christ based faith. Only ones that need more explaining, hedging and tithing than others.
There are temporal consequences of sin, even after guilt is removed.
I broke all 10 commandments and I ate meat during lent. My bad. How many hail Marys do I owe you?
All of them.
What what? Are you saying I can denounce “the holy spirit” and no catholic ever gets to bother me again? Not even theoretically? That is great! Also, woud the church become sinners themselves if they know about one of their members denouncing and they proceed to collect church tax? Nice loophole if ;)
Fun fact: you stay a Catholic when you announce that you are leaving the church, and even when the pope excommunicates you. According to the church, there’s no way to leave once you’ve been baptized.
That sounds like the kind of abusive hostage situation that we westerners tend to associate with Islam, with no formal way to get out. Interesting, TIL…
You’re always a sinner anyway in catholics.
Putting on my miter, crossing my arms stubbornly, and whispering “This is the way” as I shrivel up into an emaciated string bean.
If you want to get really technical, in Jewish theory there’s an argument in the Talmud or Mishrad that says that as long as the dish is less than 1/16 or 1/32 (something like that,) of the non halal meat, then it can be considered kosher as well
I’m not Jewish, I just studied religions for a while. Someone who is Jewish can correct me on the proper percentage
I am Jewish, but the only way I will correct you is by saying it’s a bunch of centuries-old religious nonsense that has nothing to do with actual nutritional science.
I don’t have a source for this but I had been told it was in an attempt to try to convert Venezuelans to Catholicism
You don’t like the religion?
Here, we made the big dog a fish, are you happy now?
If I were a 16-17th century South American and you turned a big dog into a fish, yeah… I’d probably be willing to believe in your God.
*big rat
also hippos are fish.
Huh so apparently it’s because of Latin?
Quoting an old comment
Fish isn’t considered meat because English and Latin are slightly different languages. For hundreds of years Catholics were not allowed to eat meat on Friday. But the language of the church is Latin, and what Catholics were not allowed to eat is ‘carne’ which is the flesh of creatures from the land or the sky. So fish was fine.
Also. around the mediterrainian, fish is a food staple of the poor. The point is to eliminate excess.
I’d argue that an inlander ordering fish at a fancy restaurant on a Friday during Lent is not following the spirit of the law (which can be more of a discipline than a rule, depending on the local episcopal authority), especially if it’s not a special occasion and the fish was caught hundreds of kilometers away.
The inlander could eat freshwater fish like trout or carp, no fancy saltwater fish.
The point has been missed.
Sorry, I thought it was clear: there was and is also fish ‘Inland’ that is poor people’s food.
You can also cover the meat in pasta dough so god doesn’t see it
Similar energy to drinking in a dimly lit bar makes sure Allah doesn’t see you drinking so it’s fine lol
Found the Schwob.
Nett hier
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waren Sie
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Rough translation: “Little god bullshitters”
Maybe “God-foolers”, as in: we’re hiding the meat so god doesn’t know we’re still eating it
Yes. “Bescheisser” is an extra rude way to say cheater.
The suffix -le is the Swabian diminutive, it derives from -lein, but they rarely make the distinction between -lein and -chen. Maybe because, like me, they don’t care about the official grammar on using them (I don’t even know the rules, I would have to look them up lol).
The Maulbronn monchs once decided that anything living in their pond was fish. Ducks, geese and apparently once a cow drowned and was thus declared a fish.
For lent, beaver counts as fish
Thats the pickup line I use on devout catholics.
Ah yes, the beaver reacharound
Save the poophole loophole for 2nd date
Fish: live in water
Beavers: also live in water
checks out
Some monks also drowned their pigs. They lived in the water until they died, so they are fish
I tried to look this up, but ended up empty-handed. Could you point me in the right direction?
I only found german sources (tabloids, blogs and something from a catholic site), but I don’t know how serious they are. Here the link of the Catholic site:
https://www.katholisch.de/artikel/12474-funf-tricks-zur-fastenzeit
Apparently, they also named pigs “fish”, hence they are then fish too.
Thanks. The article title “tricks for Lent” points to the non-serious nature of it. Plus, it uses the phrase “According to legend” several times and doesn’t even mention the particular monestaries, nor the specific monks involved. I think it’s just meant to be a humorous jab at legalism.
Typically, if practices get so bad that they have to be forbidden by an administrative authority, then you would have some written document forbidding the practice. Although that would acknowledge it wasn’t legitimate to begin with, it would at least suggest the histriocity of it.
Some birds live in water… even though they are creatures of the sky…so is duck ok for lent?
You rang?
Is there already a !beetlejuicing on a lemmy instance?
Strangely, there wasn’t, but I finally created !beetlejuicing@lemm.ee.
Please feel free to post this there.
There’s even a blonde, green-eyed jesus. Where?
what*
Not “how”.
Who?
When?
