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Nemeski@lemm.ee to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

Signal messenger blocked in Russia, says Roskomnadzor

www.reuters.com

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Signal messenger blocked in Russia, says Roskomnadzor

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  • Reddit is better.@dormi.zone
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    Can’t have secret talk amongst the peasants

    • woelkchen@lemmy.world
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      Telegram, including secret chats, is not blocked because Russian elites happen to use that, too.

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        I could put on my tinfoil hat and say if signal is blocked but telegram isn’t, maybe that means that telegram isn’t as secret as they make it out to be.

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          It’s open source. Look can up the encryption yourself.

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            No need, all you have to do is read the whitepaper. they home brewed the encryption algorithm and nobody actually knows if it’s worth a damn. That’s not exactly a secret.

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              nobody actually knows if it’s worth a damn.

              After all these years, security researchers still don’t know if the encryption is any good?

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                On that level it usually falls on computer scientists. Formal methods can prove that any implementation is correct, but proving the absence of unintended attacks is a lot harder.

                Needham-Schroeder comes to mind as an example from back when I was studying the things.

                • woelkchen@lemmy.world
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                  On that level it usually falls on computer scientists.

                  And not a single one has been able to analyze the encryption in all these years? Fact is, Telegram is the tool the Russian opposition and even Ukrainians use to communicate without Putin being able to infiltrate.

            • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              And it isn’t even encrypted by default, you manually have to enable that. By default, all your plain text messages are stored on their servers.

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            Can it be proven that that encryption is what’s used in practice?

            • woelkchen@lemmy.world
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              Just use the F-Droid version if there is any doubt.

              • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                What about iOS users?

                • woelkchen@lemmy.world
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                  What about iOS users?

                  Apple is not selling iPhones in Russia after the beginning of the invasion.

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        Telegram is shady as fuck and also afaik only uses end to end encryption in „secret“ one on one chats.

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          Telegram is shady as fuck and also afaik only uses end to end encryption in „secret“ one on one chats.

          I was very explicitly referring to secret chats.

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    Youtube, signal blocked. What is Putin afraid of?

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      Details or continued news of Ukraines special military operation to denazify Russia?

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    Signal over Proton VPN Stealth protocol. All free, specifically for these types of situations.

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      Signal needs a phone number though

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        They did away with that some time ago.

        EDIT: To clarify, it no longer shows the number.

        https://signal.org/blog/phone-number-privacy-usernames/

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          They never stopped requiring a phone number to sign up.

          They just let you hide this from other users now

          I’m planning to get a prepaid burner to try signal but I’m a bit concerned about the fact my contacts are associated with a phone #

          We are using simplex ATM

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            Yes. I clarified that in a different comment. My original reply was not meant as “Signal is the best solution” but as a heads up that Proton Stealth can not only bypass the block but also disguise the traffic if you want to continue using Signal.

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          That’s not really the issue though, if you want to stay anonymous and not tell the government you use signal, since sms is insecure

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        Works with VoIP numbers though

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    Non-paywalled: https://archive.is/9MEKt

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      deleted by creator

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    Snowden unavailable for comment.

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    I hope Roskomnadzor doesn’t chase after the fediverse next.

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    I wonder what messaging service the Russian govt will use.

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