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SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

If one innocent person is tortured so that everyone else can live and the world doesn't end, is that simultaneously unfair but also morally preferable over complete destruction of everything?

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If one innocent person is tortured so that everyone else can live and the world doesn't end, is that simultaneously unfair but also morally preferable over complete destruction of everything?

SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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    Evolution is not a good base for morals. We tried it out - was really bad.

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        I’m in Germany, so not sure if allowed to answer.

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            Dang, I’m already marching on the street with a burning torch.

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        Sure, but is a bad basis for morals. Like I said - social Darwinism is dodgy at best.

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          Evolutionary biology is definitely no basis for a system of morality. But I must say, as a biologist who studied evolution, that social Darwinism is not based either on evolutionary theory or empirical evidence. The idea that evolution is driven solely by competitive ability is pseudoscience, and works neither in human nor animal populations.

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            I wrote it further down, ist based on very basic understanding of evolution (happen to have studied biology myself) and sure, like any other moral system it’s not based on any empirical evidence.

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            So using evolution to reason moral questions is not the best way to go.

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                I hope you just pretend that you don’t know what social Darwinism is and how applying it worked out in the end.

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                    Social Darwinism is what you get by applying basic understanding of evolution to moral questions - exactly what you have been doing. It’s really not that complicated. As a moral construct it only leads to suffering since it lacks any empathy.

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          You know Darwin himself was against the idea. He argued that our ability to look after one another was one of the most vital parts of being human and we can’t save humanity by giving up our humanity.

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            How did you manage to interpret my comment in a way that I support social Darwinism?

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        Evolution is a scientific concept, it is not an ideology.

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