I have been using kodi but it just so limited and clunky. Android TV is better but that is a major challenge since Android TV is very tied to Google with not much existing outside of Google.
What I am looking for is a device that can work with mostly Jellyfin. I don’t use any streaming services. It would need to work flawlessly with a remote and I am looking for something that maintains itself mostly.
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Hdmi cable to a laptop
+1 that’s what I do at home with my desktop and what is IMHO the best solution.
Yet on vacation I use an old android box with Android Tv (SlimTv) and I have to say it’s nice to have a dedicated interface allowing use of a remote.Dedicated mini pc running vlc and retroarch with a network link to my 18tb file server schwing schwing
Good choice, I’ve been tempted to set up something similar myself
Go a mini itx over nuc, you can add a half decent gpu and run 1964 as well
Personally, I just use a raspberry pi with flex launcher. Not sure about remote though
It should be feasible to get the remote working under Wayland
Thank you for sharing this, it looks really promising
I’m tired of only hearing of Kodi suggested in threads like this. I don’t get why it’s so popular, it’s confusing for non-tech oriented people, you can’t stream, YouTube functionality is questionable, the interface is dated looking and IMO an eyesore…
Some people like Kodi and that’s great but it sucks balls for other people and there’s barely ever any mention of any sort of alternative (like your comment)
These threads are usually just:
“I need a device or software for watching tv that works with a remote”
Kodi Kodi Kodi jUsT uSe A lApToP Kodi Kodi Laptop + HDMI cable
Yeah, as much as I love Kodi it is simply not meant for what I want to do, streaming that is.
We’ve been using an Apple TV. From memory, there’s a Jellyfin client.
Apple isn’t exactly my go to company especially for privacy and freedom
Jellyfin + Apple TV + Infuse = Bliss
Apple TV only works on Apple hardware and isn’t great for privacy or freedom. No thanks.
The “Apple TV” is Apple hardware.
Exactly. It is locked down and does not respect your freedom
What can you do on your android tv that you can do on an Apple TV?
Install F-droid and not be locked into Apples ecosystem. Also there are privacy issues as well as it connects to Apples servers
Does fdroid even work on android tv?
Yes
At least on FireTV most apps work. (Not played around with AndroidTV yet)
Often they just don’t work with a remote, but you are always free to connect bluetooth/USB keyboards, mouse etc.
The official/standard app doesn’t work (well) with remotes, but F-Droid Classic works fine, though not 100% either (when an app is selected focus is not on anything visible, reading description and antifeatures doesn’t work), but installing, uninstalling, updating, filter and search work just fine.
There is also at least one list with apps that (kinda) work on AndroidTV
Though the only app I really use is Xtra, which doesn’t work with remotes. I also use KDE Connect, but I don’t remember how well it worked remotes, but once it’s running it doesn’t need any further interaction and you can send files and paste from a PC/laptop etc.
Some apps explicitly support TVs, like: Kodi, NOVA , Moonlight, BiglyBT, Shadowsocks for Android TV, Jellyfin for Android TV …
You can debloat an NVIDIA shield android tv box, replace the default launcher, then install whatever else you want. It’s probably not perfect but it’s pretty darn good. That’s what I use and it can be updated without losing any of my customization.
I don’t own one but I agree, it ist very good. But it’s too expensive for what it is nowadays. A second hand one or maybe the next generation might be worth it again
Yeah we looked into a shield recently because we know someone who has one and we really liked it, plus I’ve heard it can be locked down and side loaded decently
But then we saw the price of one and are not willing to spend more than half the cost of a brand new 4k tv on a little box to stream from our media server and Netflix…
Use the jellyfin kodi addon works very smoothly. I’ve been using it for two years and love it. I replaced all my chromecasts with kodi. It even has the approval of my wife.
It even has the approval of my wife.
He is the chosen one! Hail him!
Just started messing with this last night and can’t find wjhere Jellyfin ends up after installing it.
It isn’t bad but it does leave something to be desired. Mostly a UI that doesn’t require going though submenu after submenu. Also my remote control doesn’t work with kodi as it can’t handle key codes greater than 255
I use a raspberry pi with LibreElec/Kodi. It works with the HDMI-CEC, meaning I control it with the TV remote.
Jellyfin can be used as a source for movies and stuff with a plugin.
Awful UI and my TV remote only has on off with CEC. I have a Bluetooth remote but the select key code is higher than 255
Yeah, fair enough. Did you try kodi with a different hardware? Might be a bit easier on the clunkiness. But besides AndroidTV, which I hate because it doesn’t do what I want, I have no alternative.
I haven’t dabbed in it, what does the select keycode being higher than 255 do?
Select
Kodi just have a awful menu system everything is buried under menus.
As far as Android TV goes it is pretty sure friendly and works out of the box
Yeah, it does need a lot of getting used to, especially if you want to change some settings.
With AndroidTV I have the same problem as with Windows: More and more of the “features” seem to be against my interests. That might be a view tainted by the SmartTVs, but it’s the only experience I have with it.
We really need a foss TV is that’s modern with modern apps
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The Nvidia shield can run Lineage which is a option.
Lineage has google tv version?
can it be flashed on “google tv” teevees?
RPi with minidlnad, all devices at home from computers, phones, tablets, video projector, even VR HMD, can play content with e.g VLC.
Very quick to install (basically have a media directory with your videos inside) and still very flexible, e.g new content is added simply by copying from any other device with access, e.g scp which itself can be a script after downloading something.
Do you need an in-remote microphone? If not, I’d suggest a degoogled nvidia shield tv (i.e flash it with lineage OS or similar)
Not a bad option. However, apps are lacking and I don’t want Google
Lineage OS doesn’t include google apps or services. Jellyfin works though.
Did you install via F-droid?
Could do that, or sideload the APK from https://repo.jellyfin.org/files/client/androidtv/
ive been through this process recently and sadly, what you are looking for doesnt exist at the moment. thr closest thing is Kodi and as you already know, has a lot of flaws.
I use an amazon fire tv 4k, I only use it to start jellyfin. It’s perfect.
If you don’t want it to phone home, put it behind a firewall, and block all but your domains
I can’t recommend it for such a use case. There is no way to automatically start it unless somebody found a new workaround since the last time I tried it. (I hijacked the home button via a accessibility until they removed that possibility) Though it depends on your use case. It’s probably okay if you always have internet and never have the situation where you are offline and want to watch material from a USB stick or something like that or stream it from another home server. In that case fire TV would lock you out and tell you to fix your internet, but only settings are available and all apps are hidden.
I didn’t check for internet connectivity and I’m always onine. I just don’t care that it phones home whenever I start the device.
What’s the best alternative? I’d move if there was one
I was wrong. It works now, there is a button to get to appstore, and it’s always possible to get to apps by long pressing the home button.
Thanks! That’s important to know!!
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I have one but the bootloader could not be unlocked. I’ll just reuse the remote as it was pretty cheap.
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I’ve been using a Chromecast with Google tv, and have deprived my tv my WiFi credentials. 90% of what I watch is from my Plex server, 9% other streaming services, 1% digital antenna.
It’s not an ideal situation but as you know because you asked the question, the privacy situation in TVs is dire. Otherwise you’re doing ridiculous shit like plugging computers into it or whatever.
I really dig my tcl roku tv. Ultra cheap and has plex/jellyfin. Has 1 ad on the main screen that can be easily blocked but can also be setup to insta launch an app on boot. These tvs also have decent latency in game mode too (my most important requirement).
I remember that roku TVs refuse working until you connect it to the internet. their values/intentions are clear, I wouldn’t give money to them
edit: they also require registering a roku account
Not true at all. Yes you do have to do an initial setup connected to the internet (and making a roku account), but after that you can disconnect it from the internet completely. It even looses its initial ad after a certain time.
oh that was it, the account requirement was what I wanted to remember but couldn’t! was sure it was something even worse, thanks for the help.
yeah if I would buy such a TV by accident, I would bring it back within the return period and tell that it was faulty, because it is.
So it is true. Why do you call it not true?
The ad on the right side of the home screen always shows up for me, even with a pi-hole setup at home. I actually ended up factory resetting my roku tv and disconnected it from the inyernet entirely a couple years back for that exaxt reason. Except roku OS 10+ actually gas built-in ads on the right side that show up even if you’re offline.
…so how did you get rid of the ads entirely? Because I’d love to do that myself.
You have to disconnect the internet for a while. Think a month or two.
Weird, I’ve had it disconnected since the factory reset.
Maybe I should connect it, let it load new ads, and then cut it off again?
Humm. How long has it been disconnected? I wouldn’t reconnect just in case it starts a timer back over or something.
A couple of years now. I messed around with the Secret Menu settings today and I might have solved it; my guess is that there are some “default” ads cached forever on certain settings.
Wow. Secret menu? Didn’t even think to look for that. What does it slow you to do?
