“Indicating to pass” is insane and needs to stop
I live in an area in regional Victoria where you’ll get behind one of these guys for a 5-10km stretch.
And I grew up in regional NSW where it could be more like 15-20km.
If you’re on the asphalt you overtake if you can see it’s safe to do so as usual, or if the operator can clearly gesture to you, unmistakably, with a hand signal that it’s safe to go around.
I’ve never heard of the right turn signal thing.
I’ve seen it a few times when travelling. I think that the best way for a slow vehicle to indicate that it is safe to overtake is to indicate left (near-side, passenger-side, kerb/shoulder-side, whatever) and merge onto the shoulder. This is what the majority of tractors do in my local region.
This provides those following better visibility of the road ahead and allows them to make up their own mind.
Also, those following, just be patient. The only reason why the tractor would be deliberately driving slow to annoy you is because you a being a dickhead. Don’t be a dickhead on the road.
I’m in rural sa and many trucks will indicate to let the person behind know it’s clear, especially over a crest.
For crying out loud, never ever ever do this, god, if there is a crest then you can’t even see once you pull out. Don’t do it.
I’ve seen it a lot, mostly by road trains on the Nullarbor, and we would wait for them to stop indicating. It’s just a brief signal, one or two flashes and then you’re safe to check if it’s safe.
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I have also driven extensively through mainly country WA and elsewhere and briefly worked as a truck driver in the NT, in my experience there is no consistency in understanding of these signals, as pointed out by the article, and I’m sceptical that it is consistently applied by truckies.
I do believe that there is an understanding among experienced truckies and some(a majority???) of other road users that there is a system but it is not universally understood by cara-fucking-van drivers, or apparently school bus drivers either.
As a car driver I have on at least 2 occasions had a truckie indicate it is safe for me to overtake(indicating L-L) in a situation that would have caused an accident. The only time it is safe to overtake is when you as the driver can be satisfied it is safe to do so. Relying on potentially ambiguous signals that are not universally understood is a literal accident waiting to happen.
I have been slightly obsessed with this since being quite outraged at a clear signal to pass being so dangerous and I’ve raised it with several truckies over the years, I think a small majority of truckies assume it’s universally understood but a large minority never indicate to pass as it is dangerous/raises liability concerns. A clearly non random sample and I may have been asking leading questions…
You make a good point that for the truckies safety there is a need to indicate that it is unsafe but if people are misunderstanding this then I don’t know what the solution is.
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I have done only one drive (or two…there and back) on roads that both had truckies and were single lane. Brissy to St George. West of Dalby I saw truckies indicating right to communicate that it’s safe to pass constantly. I had heard about it before and explained it to my co-driver because he was unfamiliar, but this was the first time I experienced it. And my experience was very strongly that yes, it is indeed a real thing.
I have never heard about the left blinker being used in the same way as you describe.
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I’ve seen plenty of trucks do the single right hand indicator blink, usually b-doubles and larger.
I interpret that as a few things:
- Old mate has noticed me behind them and has judged the road ahead to be suitably clear, so I can nose out and have a look and go for it if I think it’s ok, and
- That they in turn have a good bit of road ahead of them so they can attempt to nudge all the trailers to the left for me as I come past.
I was driving from Brisbane → Tasmania last week and a helpful truckie definitely used the right indicator to tell me it was safe to pass. Thanks, mate!
Of course you treat it as a suggestion, nose out and judge for yourself before trying to overtake.
If you cannot see around the vehicle in front of you to know if it’s safe to pass, it isn’t safe to pass.
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I swear this is like the third time I’ve seen an article with almost this exact (OG) title, spaced like 6 months apart. And I’m currently feeling absolutely crazy for my inability to find those articles.
Just gonna say, ive said thanks out loud in the car and given the truck the thumbs up after he just gave one or two clicks of the right-hand blinker saying we could pass (after being on their arse for a few kms). Multiple times.
But if it was stuck on and still blinking then I would not pass.
Just saying… Cos they’re not gonna write an article like this and it not existing.
Why would you not use your hazards? Using just one indicator really does seem insane…
What would hazards mean in this case? A hazard?
Two blinks of blinker is Imitating what you would do before you swoop out to pass…so least it makes sense.
