In Denmark when a car reaches 6 years, it needs to be safety checked to be used on the roads. After that it’s every 2nd years.
Tesla model 3 managed these safety checks extremely poorly, with 3 times the average failure rate.
In total, 1,392 errors were found on the Tesla model, which is three times as many compared to the other electric cars.
If you don’t have a translate page button (to your own language), You may want to switch to Firefox. I’m showing the original page in danish, because danish is delicious.
It’s worse than that, the first safety inspection is after four years, not six.
Sorry, I thought it was 6, but I checked it out, and you are right, it’s already at 4 years now!
I’ve tried to edit my post to correct it, but the edits don’t work for some reason?
https://fdm.dk/nyheder/bilist/2025-01-populaer-tesla-model-dumper-med-et-brag-til-syn
English:
Problems with wheel suspension and play in the steering wheel
Original:
problemer med hjulophæng og ratslør
WTF! How has this been allowed to become an issue again? We solved this problem more than 50 years ago with better Sterring rack.
And the law demands ZERO play in the steering wheel!I just saw a review recently with a reviewer complaining there was a bit to much play in the steering wheel.
This is probably some drive by wire shit, how is this even legal?
What a fucking travesty. My 18 year old Opel Vectra doesn’t have that problem, and has never needed to have it fixed. A modern quality steering rack just works!!Goddam this pisses me off! I’m furious they allow this shit to happen now. Every single one of them should be permanently recalled.
Tesla also has an insanely poor accident record, maybe there’s a reason for that!This is probably some drive by wire shit
No, none of the model 3’s use drive by wire, it’s a classic steering column like other cars.
however there is a case running between Tesla and the FDM because the bushings that the steering wheel adjustment mechanism is mounted with has some play in it, which is supposedly what the inspections are rejecting them with as play in the steeringg column, even though there is not any play in the actual steering column itself. Shitty quality, absolutely, but not an inherent safety risk like play in the steering column.
So Tesla just can’t make it properly like every other manufacturer can, and have done for 50 years!
Wow, that’s kind of a worse look for Tesla.
ejecting them with as play in the steeringg column, even though there is not any play in the actual steering column itself.
That’s probably because AFAIK there is zero play allowed in the steering wheel. It’s not enough that the column is OK if the rest isn’t.
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due to his arrogance and inability to grasp engineering detail.
Yeah I just joked with my wife that Musk probably told the engineers to cut the number of parts in the steering from 5 to 3.
Obviously simplified, since it’s way more parts. In general it’s true that fewer parts is better, but Musk is absolutely insane on the idea, to the degree that basic functionality suffers or is even completely removed.I admit I was actually very impressed with Tesla early on, and the Tesla S, and I cheered for them. They helped make electric cars cool IMO. But I quickly began to notice things that I did not like at all. Like his insane promises on FSD when he discontinued cooperation with a company that actually knew what they were doing. His reaction was to spew bullshit about how Tesla was leading the field.
Also his complete disregard for conditions in the work place, both safety and regarding racism. And his claim that working for him was a “lifestyle” helping to change the world.
That last part was an enormous red flag! That this man is likely an insane megalomaniac.I really really hope the Nazi salutes will backfire in a big way. But probably not.
That’s probably because AFAIK there is zero play allowed in the steering wheel. It’s not enough that the column is OK if the rest isn’t.
The thing is, there isn’t any play WRT turning of the steering wheel, it is only horizontal and lateral movement of it. The law doesn’t specify this unequivocally, which is why they’re arguing to figure out how to interpret it.
which is why they’re arguing to figure out how to interpret it.
Yeah that’s the goto argument for companies literally not meeting regulation, they try to make it into a matter of interpretation if they can.
If you have play in the movement vertically and horizontally, there will at least potentially/occasionally be similar play in the actual steering.
My god it sounds like an embarrassing issue to have IMO. Even the cheapest cars from traditional makers that cost about a third don’t have that issue.If you have play in the movement vertically and horizontally, there will at least potentially/occasionally be similar play in the actual steering
No, they are two completely independent mechanical systems. Failure of one does not have a causal link to failure in the other.
There is no way that makes sense. If you have vertical play in the mounting, that vertical play will also have an impact in your movement of the steering wheel. When if for instance you hold the wheel on the side with one hand. any turning movement begins with a vertical movement.
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Turns out Elon Musk is a grifter hyping overpriced low-quality crap, who doesn’t care about the customer. Who would have suspected such a thing?
“Dump”? Is that a literal translation of the Danish word for failure?
Du dumpede = You failed the exam.
It’s very specific to failing an exam/inspection etc.
God I love how Dutch is essentially just how I talk after I’ve had a pint too many. If I can ever get a hand on German, Dutch is the next language on my list.
While as a Dutchman i find your statement hilarious, they’re talking about Danish here ;)
Yknow here’s the thing.
I distinctly remember telling myself “don’t type Dutch” because I always say one when I mean the other.
Maybe that’s not a good translation, I just went with the auto translation, and didn’t really think about it, because we have the word “dumpe” for failing.
Maybe it doesn’t work in English.I would correct it, but I already tried to correct 6 years to 4, and it doesn’t take for some reason?
In English, to dump is (usually) to unload or discard, so its use here is a bit strange. I thought I understood what was meant anyway, but I wasn’t sure.
I’ve tried to correct it and save 3 times now, but my changes don’t show: 🙁
Anecdotally heard from a tow truck operator that im 2024, he alone towed ~40 Teslas. Make of that what you will.
Why didn’t he use the tow truck?
C’mon man. There were 40 of them! He only had 1 tow truck! What was he supposed to do?
Sounds like a lot for a brand of cars that on average aren’t very old!
Yup, and they’re not even very common here. I’m in Malaysia, and it’s branded above the byds, of which there are much more.
When a car dumps this safety check, it’s illegal to drive unless the problem is fixed withing 14 days.
So generally with older cars it’s recommended to take the car to a mechanic for inspection first, and have issues fixed before inspection.
But with an only 4 year old car, that generally have been through manufacturer recommended services until very recently, this shouldn’t be necessary.Unfortunately the article doesn’t mention any particular safety hazard, but I’m guessing brakes are high on the list, because there have been stories about that already before they were old enough to require inspections.
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Changed 6 to 4 year.I read an article about how many more Teslas failed the safety check in Germany, and the % was extremely high compared to other cars! The thing that failed the most was the breaks, as they had rusted. If you live in the Northern hemisphere where there’s snow, Tesla recommends to have the car in for service to clean the breaks, lubricate etc. every year. It’s not a high cost (1200 DKK) compared to other yearly services.
In Denmark a car will fail with brakes as the cause for simply having rust on them, even if the actual braking performance is good enough to pass. This is causing a lot of BEV and PHEV to require brake replacements even though they’re not worn and still work just fine.
Det er særligt fejlgrupperne „bremseudstyr“, „lygteudstyr“, „aksler, hjul og dæk“ samt „styretøj“, som bilerne dumper på.
Ouch.
Brakes not passing the inspection is actually pretty “normal” for electric cars. The brakes see very little use due to regenerative braking and the disks start to rust. A large amount of vehicles fails the TÜV because of that here in Germany.
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Thanks, that’s really bad, where did you find that?
Thanks, I should have posted that instead.
I imagine one of the reasons for this, is because people don’t have their cars serviced yearly. Most other car manufacturers require you to have your car serviced once a year.
That’s still just not good enough.
My 18 year old Opel has managed 4 years with only an exhaust repair, that’s from 14 to 18 years without a problem that can occur on an EV!
4 years ago I had the breaks fixed.I know it’s anecdotal, and that I’ve been lucky with this car, but for fucks sake 30% failure rate on a 4 year old car!!
That’s horrendous even if none of them had ever seen service for 4 years!These are the most basic SAFETY issues, that are legally required, not about being 100% top condition as new.
Who knew Nazis were bad car designers?
Ironic because historically they were pretty good.
It was the Communist that were bad at car design.
