Five Russian jets have been blown up by Ukraine in the past three days, as Britain said drone attacks on targets within Russia were being launched from inside its own territory.
Stop financing the war … if everyone is spending billions on a war machine to just fight -> then there will be endless fighting
if you stop the financing and instead spend a few million on peaceful resolution, negotiation and just simply talking, the fighting will stop and there will be resolutions … it won’t be a simple fix, there will be complications, disputes and wins and losses by both sides (everyone can argue the details about it in whatever way they want) … but the end result will be an end to the fighting.
Otherwise, if everyone keeps wanting to spend billions on fighting … the fighting will never end.
So the answer is to fight Russia at all cost and completely defeat Russia? So the result would be sending billions more into the Ukrainian war machine (where global armaments companies can make a huge profit) … Ukraine fights its way to the Russians and completely defeats them … then what? … it would force the Russians to use nuclear options … and no nuclear armed nation would tolerate that and now we have nuclear weapons being exchanged … and do you think everyone would just quietly and logically agree to launch one nuclear weapon for every one the other side sends?
The whole scenario of fighting at all cost just leads to one thing … more war … and more war leads to nuclear fallout
Disagree with me all you want … I have no love for Russia … I have no love for war … I support Ukrainian independence … there are political options that support these views … I also value my life, your life and the lives of millions of people all over the world to say that I would rather see peaceful options to this conflict than to see a never ending fight that is slowly leading us all to nuclear war.
Not disagreeing with the general point but please note that China Uncensored is Falun Gong-affiliated and should really not trusted in anything they say about China. (I say this as someone who is very critical of China)
And Peter Zeihan… I don’t know that guy just rubs me the wrong way. Also lots of right wing associations afaik.
No, the president of Ukraine has asked Putin repeatedly to stop the war and withdraw. Tucson has refused and has ignored any offers to do so. He in fact gave a speech last year claiming that Ukraine is not a real country. He has authored a study to resurrect the Soviet Union by reconquering every country that was part of the USSR, including Poland and East Germany.
If Ukrainian were capitulate today, we would see Russian soldiers invading Poland and Germany. That’s their goal. In fact their goal is to stretch Russia all the way to the Atlantic coast.
I definitely have no love for Nazis … either ones in the past or the ones who exist now … but Nazi Germany didn’t have nuclear weapons back then. I would rather look for a peaceful resolution to any situation with any entity, fascist or not, if they were pointing a loaded shotgun at my face.
Stop financing the war … if everyone is spending billions on a war machine to just fight -> then there will be endless fighting
if you stop the financing and instead spend a few million on peaceful resolution, negotiation and just simply talking, the fighting will stop and there will be resolutions … it won’t be a simple fix, there will be complications, disputes and wins and losses by both sides (everyone can argue the details about it in whatever way they want) … but the end result will be an end to the fighting.
Otherwise, if everyone keeps wanting to spend billions on fighting … the fighting will never end.
So you want Ukraine to just capitulate? Just to satisfy your “peace at any cost” desires? Because Russia sure isn’t going to.
So the answer is to fight Russia at all cost and completely defeat Russia? So the result would be sending billions more into the Ukrainian war machine (where global armaments companies can make a huge profit) … Ukraine fights its way to the Russians and completely defeats them … then what? … it would force the Russians to use nuclear options … and no nuclear armed nation would tolerate that and now we have nuclear weapons being exchanged … and do you think everyone would just quietly and logically agree to launch one nuclear weapon for every one the other side sends?
The whole scenario of fighting at all cost just leads to one thing … more war … and more war leads to nuclear fallout
Disagree with me all you want … I have no love for Russia … I have no love for war … I support Ukrainian independence … there are political options that support these views … I also value my life, your life and the lives of millions of people all over the world to say that I would rather see peaceful options to this conflict than to see a never ending fight that is slowly leading us all to nuclear war.
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Not disagreeing with the general point but please note that China Uncensored is Falun Gong-affiliated and should really not trusted in anything they say about China. (I say this as someone who is very critical of China)
And Peter Zeihan… I don’t know that guy just rubs me the wrong way. Also lots of right wing associations afaik.
Vlad Vexler is cool tho.
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No, the president of Ukraine has asked Putin repeatedly to stop the war and withdraw. Tucson has refused and has ignored any offers to do so. He in fact gave a speech last year claiming that Ukraine is not a real country. He has authored a study to resurrect the Soviet Union by reconquering every country that was part of the USSR, including Poland and East Germany.
If Ukrainian were capitulate today, we would see Russian soldiers invading Poland and Germany. That’s their goal. In fact their goal is to stretch Russia all the way to the Atlantic coast.
There were Nazi appeasers back in the day as well.
You are no better.
I definitely have no love for Nazis … either ones in the past or the ones who exist now … but Nazi Germany didn’t have nuclear weapons back then. I would rather look for a peaceful resolution to any situation with any entity, fascist or not, if they were pointing a loaded shotgun at my face.
If you appease the Nazis/Russians, all you tell them is that doing what they did was okay, and that they can do it again and again.
Invade, treaty, break treaty and invade again. Rinse and repeat.
Sometimes they have to be told no and be told very loudly that “you’ve gone too far”. Just like the playground bullies they are. This is that moment.
You, and people like you, were part of the problem when the Nazis were invading their neighbors. You’re part of the problem now.
Shame on you.
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