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Jack@slrpnk.net to Europe@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

It is no longer safe to move our governments and societies to US clouds - Bert Hubert's writings

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It is no longer safe to move our governments and societies to US clouds - Bert Hubert's writings

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Jack@slrpnk.net to Europe@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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The very short version: it is madness to continue transferring the running of European societies and governments to American clouds. Not only is it a terrible idea given the kind of things the “King of America” keeps saying, the legal sophistry used to justify such transfers, like the nonsense letter the Dutch cabinet sent last week, has now been invalidated by Trump himself. And why are we doing this? Convenience.
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    I agree that recent events have made it unsafe to host anything on a US company’s cloud server.

    But I disagree that recent events are the biggest reason not to host anything on Google, AWS, or Microsoft servers. You should have gotten away from them long ago.

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      You should have gotten away from them long ago.

      While I agree, open source technology hadn’t yet fully matured when the NSA leaks first dropped. Something like Owncloud had only recently launched back then.

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    "always has been" meme format showing earth from space with two astronauts looking at it. the first is captioned "It is no longer safe to move our governments and societies to US clouds" while the second is pointing a gun at the back of the first and is captioned "never has been"

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    It never was. Really. Never.

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    https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted for personal use

    Hetzner and Akamai for production

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    The time to develop sovereign digital infrastructure was like a decade ago. Better late than never I guess. Good news is that the only way Europe can do this is by leveraging open source, so maybe we’ll see more support for that going forward.

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      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        indeed

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    Thank goodness I just started moving my stuff to Nextcloud.

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    it never was…

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    Inertia, cheapness and laziness. Europe needs to develop its own IT infrastructure.

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        Cheap on the initial outlay for IT staff and systems. Pay for cloud instead and get locked in like you said.

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    Say someone uses a Droplet on Digital Ocean. What’s the best EU alternative?

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