Summary
White House insiders blame National Security Adviser Mike Waltz for a group chat error that exposed military strike discussions to journalist Jeffrey Goldberg.
Waltz mistakenly added Goldberg to a Signal chat about potential strikes in Yemen, involving key officials like Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and JD Vance.
Trump has defended Waltz but is reportedly weighing his options.
Some aides urge resignation to avoid forcing Trump to make a decision. Critics call Waltz reckless, but House Speaker Mike Johnson opposes his resignation.
No, every person on that chat (other than the editor from the Atlantic) should lose their clearance and be fired. They were all using an unapproved, off-record system for discussing matters of national security. They are all responsible.
Beyond that, every member of the chat could see who else was in it and not a single one put in half a second to scan through the other names/initials to verify they knew everyone included.
Jeffrey Goldberg should lose his job too but for unrelated reasons. Good on him for publishing this responsibly but he sucks too. He was arguably the main cheerleader for the 2nd Iraq war.
Shocking. You shitcan the infosec practices and human resources you’ve built up for decades, and then wonder why your new seive doesn’t make a good bucket.
We’ve got some absolute geniuses running things here.
I’m stealing this analogy
When the most responsible person in the chat is the journalist added in error…
Somehow the kids knew they needed an adult in the room…
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One thing I want to know is: who did Waltz think he was adding? Is there another Goldberg in the administration (or a foreign one?) out there? Or is his name right under Gabbard’s in the contacts list?
I think the journalist just went by his initials as did a few other people in the chat, so it could be as dumb as just having someone with the same initials. Which is notably not how government systems work, for exactly the reason that you need to know exactly who you’re communicating with and the system should make mistakes like this unlikely.
Obfuscating your identity makes sense of you’re trying to talk to leakers or doing something shady and want to allow some deniability should the conversation be compromised. Which begs the question of why so many of them already had their Signal accounts set up that way.
I saw speculation about another person in the administration with the same initials. I think they work at the US Trade Representative (?).
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My hopeful theory is that some intern with access to his phone did it so their behavior would get exposed.
Buttery males
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I blame approximately 77.3 million idiots
And 90 million lazy idiots too.
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Reagan
There is no passing the buck for matters of national security. The “party of law and order” should know that. They crucified Hillary for far less.
They will all get away with it, mark my words.
No argument here. They absolutely will.
“The buck stops here” - ?
- There is no buck.
- If there is, it’s not a big buck. Or a bad buck.
- If it is, it stops somewhere else.
- If it didn’t, the buck is actually just a glitch.
- If it isn’t, this is the devastating effects of the Biden economy.
- suckers and losers
They consider the sin not to be using unapproved services using an unapproved service, the sin is the guy who got them caught.
I always forget how low the bar for “average” is. But for the average person to realize how epically stupid Trump and his goons are takes things like this to happen.
What gets me more depressed is that nearly 4.1 billion people on earth are below average.
We are governed by goobers.
Sadly this is hardly enough either
100%. The entire time I was typing it, I thought, “events like this just expose the magnitude of the dark underbelly.”
Every damn person on that chat was a giant fucking idiot and it’s responsible for the data spill here with their collective agreement to use a non approved communication tool, taking about and continuing to talk about classified data on a unclassified environment, and then not self reporting they’re were complete morons for violating security that a new hire would have known better than to do.
I use this app. If I saw a new person added to a casual group chat, I’d ask about it. I’m not an idiot who sucks Trump’s dick, though.
Oh, so they are going to blame one fucking guy and it’s not donvict and donvict will bear zero consequences.
Seems like I heard this one before.
The trump regime is incompetent, evil, and rotten to the core.
At least two senior aides have suggested that Waltz should resign to avoid putting Trump in the “bad position” of having to decide whether to fire him, Politicoreported.
Yeah, that’s it. How dare he do this to Dear Leader and The Cause.
How dare he make Leader have to lie away the US government risking national security and avoiding FOI.
If anyone is flying today maybe ask the NSA people left at the airport why you can’t carry butter if buttery emails make plane sounds. Or maybe let us know if the boot leather tastes a bit buttery, maybe that’s how they polish them.
The outlet also pointed out that Trump’s lack of social media posts suggested he was weighing his options.
He’s having quiet time to reflect on the choices he’s made or he’s so senile that he can’t think one thought at a time.
