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    Sure, us Americans are obviously delusional, but can we talk about the fact that almost half of all brits think they would lose to a goose? They’re 20 pounds, have no teeth or claws, and their bones are hollow. Have a little confidence, guys, I’m sure you can take poultry in a fight.

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        Actually, this does explain why all those brits in Untitled Goose Game let the goose walk all over them.

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      Less than 80% of people think they could take on a rat in a life or death battle. You could literally pass out and fall on it and probably crit it.

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        Not everyone is a 15-55 year old able bodied person.

        A good chunk of the population is disabled and mobility impaired. Large swaths of the population are elderly.

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      Almost half of Brits might not be as able-bodied as you might imagine.

      I’m more interested in the rat fight, because I had my fair share of mouse encounters and rats are bigger, more dangerous and just as quick.

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        I mean, Americans have huge obesity rates, but apparently, nearly 20% of us think we can take a chimp. I’m sure a rat couldn’t kill me, but I have no idea how I would catch one with my bare hands, so that feels like a draw to me.

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          Might be easier to catch if its literally gnawing at you and attacking you.

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        I think of it more for the rat, that if it wants to it’ll fuck me up, but I’m more likely to kill it before it kills me.

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      And the fight would be harder than against a cat.

      Wtf are those people smoking? Have they ever seen a domesticated cat in severe distress??

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      Yeah, a chimpanzee will straight up rip your arms off and beat you to death with them. They have zero chill, and a massive proportion of fast-twitch muscle (which means they can create huge bursts of strength, but struggle with fine motor control.)

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    If people knew more about chimpanzees, they’d be right down there with bears and elephants. I would 100% prefer to take on a wolf or a kangaroo, taking Aussies at their word about how insane roos are, over a chimp. The chimp probably has just as high a K/D as the bear or elephant, but it’s going to teabag you while wearing the face it ripped off your skull before you go out.

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      Kangaroos do this move where they try to kick the balls off their male opponents. No thanks.

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      At the same time people also murder the fuck out of chimps with fairly primitive tools and have for a long time, what chimps really got on us is that crazy murder energy that you only really see in humans with the aid of PCP. Wouldn’t wanna fight one but in theory its about equivelent to fighting an unbelivably pissed off human.

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    14 May 1805: Narrow Escape

    One of their most harrowing experiences with a grizzly occurred on 14 May 1805, on the bank of the Missouri River between the Milk and Musselshell rivers. Clark wrote:

    Six good hunters of the party fired at a Brown or Yellow Bear Several times before they killed him, & indeed he had like to have defeated the whole party, he pursued them Seperately as they fired on him, and was near Catching Several of them one he pursued into the river, this bear was large & fat would way about 500 wt

    Lewis described the climax of the incident:

    he pursued two of them seperately so close that they were obliged to throw aside their guns and poucnes and throw themselves into the river altho’ the bank was nearly twenty feet perpendicular; so enraged was this animal that he plunged into the river only a few feet behind the second man he had compelled to take refuge in the water, when one of those who still remained on shore shot him through the head and finally killed him.

    When they butchered the animal, they found that a total of eight rifle balls had entered its body in different directions.

    https://lewis-clark.org/sciences/mammals/bears/grizzly-bear-encounters/


    You will not beat a grizzly bear unarmed. You might not beat a grizzly bear armed.

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      I love that the original word for bear has been lost to the annals of time because it was feared that saying the word for bear out loud would summon a bear and that was instant total party kill for everybody involved.

      Bears are the original boogie men.

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      When I visited Yellowstone, I found a clearing that recently had a bear in it. Grizzly or not, there was a claw mark about 7ft up on a pine tree, and there were peels of bark hanging down the tree. That bear casually peeled the bark off the tree with the same effort you could peel a cucumber with a peeler.

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    anyone honestly saying they could win a fight with a bear is someone who hikes with a .45 and thinks that will do anything for them before the bear has already killed them

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      Park rangers are advising hikers and campers in national parks to be alert for bears and take extra precautions to avoid an encounter.

      They advise park visitors to wear little bells on their clothes so they make noise when hiking. The bell noise allows bears to hear them coming from a distance, so they won’t be startled by a hiker accidentally sneaking up on them, which might cause a bear to charge.

      Visitors are told they should also carry a pepper spray can just in case they encounter a bear. Spraying the pepper into the air will irritate the bear’s sensitive nose and it will run away.

      It is also a good idea to keep an eye out for fresh bear droppings so you have an idea if bears are in the area. People should be able to recognise the difference between black bear and grizzly bear scat.

      Black bear droppings are smaller and often contain berries, leaves, and possibly bits of fur. Grizzly bear droppings tend to contain small bells and smell of pepper.

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        note that none of that is shooting a bear with a gun or fighting the bear because those “hikers” are the goddamn dumbest

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      This is one of those moments when you can immediately identify who has and who has not regularly interacted with the animal in question

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        I know right, do geese not exist in England? Or do they have special English geese that weigh 50 pounds and lack wringable necks?

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          this is kinda like mocking Aussie magpies because you only know UK magpies.

          Geese in the UK are all the giant cunt species

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      A goose will back off of you give it a boot to the chest. I’ve fought off a couple of geese and a goose-sized duck and a chest-kick is the best move. Works best of you are able to wind up and use the side of your foot like you’re trying to score a sweet goal in soccer, but a regular punt gets the job done too.

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    I’ve played enough RPGs to know you can lose to a rat, even with a sword and armor equipped

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    Would enjoy watching some tough guys try and fight anything from chimp on down.

    “Yeah, bro, I can totally fkn take an elephant!”

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    Over 30% don’t believe they would prevail over a house cat.

    Would like to hear their story.

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      I feel I could walk away victorious from a fight with a cat, but I’ll probably bleed out on my way to the hospital. Similar results to a knife fight.

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      It doesn’t say fist fight it says fight. An mg42 some ammo a and a bit of distance are going to win against almost any animal hence the whole multiple extinction events directly caused by predation by humanity.

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          It would be difficult to fight anything without arms. I guess you could just do roundhouse kicks but arms would be much more useful.

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            Thats why the brits have an advantage, all that.soccer helps their kick attacks.

            Americans obviously overrate themselves by what ever percent they think they can beat an elephant, bear, or gorrila.

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            Correct, my whole point is it’s vague enough to take advantage of so it’s not actually indicative of much aside from malicious compliance.

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              I feel like unarmed is not vague enough to allow for machine guns lol

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                “if you were unarmed”

                I’m unarmed, the fellas i hire may not be but that isn’t the question.

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          Gotta play the grey. I could beat them in a fight by hiring a mercenary or team of mercenaries.

          I’m still unarmed, I could even be involved in the fight and still not be armed and win the fight.

          Similarly the definition of unarmed varies wildly by culture and language so first let’s define unarmed and then we can decide how and where to play the language of the question.

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          Yeah that doesn’t say I can’t hire someone who is not does it say I can’t get 30000 unarmed dudes to help. It’s vague so why not play the game I’m fairly sure that’s likely why the answers look so weird.

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          They lost the emu war was lost because of incompetence. They had a machine gun they didn’t know how to use which jammed and they couldnt figure out how to clear it and then they just gave up until the next incompetent attempt.

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    Every single creature on this list would kick my ass no problem.

    Please do not make me have to explain to my mother I lost a fight against a rat.

    She’d understand if I lost a fight against a cat though. None of us win against an angry cat.

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      A goose is one of two things on this list that I have actually fought. I guess I won. It stopped attacking and retreated after I kicked it in the head. I should note that I was not the aggressor in this fight.

      The other thing I fought was a large dog that was attacking a little neighbor kid. I was probably 13 years old. I managed to get it off the kid long enough for its owner to come get it. The kid and I both needed stiches. The asshole owner of the dog was a cop, so nothing happened to him or the dog. Too this day I regret not putting a bowl of anti-freeze in his backyard to get that dog.

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      I’ve always wanted to fight a goose how do they attack? Hit you with their feathers? They don’t have teeth to puncture skin do they?

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        I’ve seen one get pissed at a car honking at it to get out of the way (they’re a protected species, Canadian Geese, specifically), and it actually ripped the license plate off his front bumper with its beak and like held it in its mouth threatening the guy to step out of his car and do something about it.

        Was the wildest shit I’ve ever seen. Like something out of a Miami throw down, except it was a goose and a car.

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          This message makes me want to fight one even more. Someone should build a robot similar to how you can do fake bull riding.

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        They bite, they peck hard enough to break small bones, and they beat with their wings (stronger than you probably imagine)

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        They bite pretty hard, and they have excellent strength from their wings. They can batter you pretty good, but once you get ahold of the goose it’s game over. You could just sit on it and crush it to death.

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    How do people think they can defeat a goose? They’re one of the meanest animals on the planet. They’re up there with wolverines and opossums.

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      Bruh they weigh like 15 lbs and their neck is long and poorly protected. If you can’t beat a goose in a fight there’s something wrong with you lol. Sure it might be hard to catch but it’s not like a single goose is going to take you down Shadow of Colossus style by skillfully dodging all your attacks while it goes after your weak points and once you get ahold of a goose it’s dead.

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      It’s easy. Grab the neck behind the head, spin, and throw. The goose figures out not to attack the 150+ pound ape after that. Not all the apes though, just the one that threw the thing.

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          That’s the technique I have successfully used on no less than 4 different occasions. Yes, they bat at me with their wings, but if you are fast enough to neutralize the head, the bird only weighs 20-25 pounds. At that point inertia takes over, and you can practice your Olympic “hammer throw” technique

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      Common and Virginia possums are timid and will hiss or faint if they’re confronted and can’t run away.

      What kind of possum is mean?

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        I don’t want to be gross, but when I was a kid, my dad was bringing me home from Little League and there was an opposum in the driveway. My dad ran it over with his car, and later on that thing got up and walked away. I count winning in a fight means to the death, and those things don’t die.

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          Chill man, lol! it doesn’t say to fight to the death, there are other ways to determine the victory of a fight!

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            I mean, I thought that’s what this chart was about. I don’t want to ever kill any animal. My comments were purely based on theory.

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        Right lol. I was gonna say I get comparing geese and wolverines, they’re both known for high levels of aggression, but opposums are known for remaining so still you think they’re dead lmao it’s almost the exact opposite!

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      Geese are mean and scary, but that doesn’t make them deadly. Unless they get a super lucky shot on a major artery they can’t kill you. You might end up with some deep scratches but I don’t think a goose could even break anything more than your hand. If it’s a fight to the death at the end of the day you can just run at the goose and tackle it, sacrificing your face and legs and arms to some really bad scratches.

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    The longer I look at this the more fascinating it gets. The fact that the bottom rows are not absolute zero across the board. The fact that the US respondents are well over 3% confident they could take on a grizzly unarmed. Is it just a social thing, always responding with confidence ? Or do they have no basic idea what a grizzly really is. Are these always the same people who think they can take on a bear and a lion? So many questions, so little data.

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      A human isn’t doing anything to an elephant unarmed. Punchs? Kicks? You’re not going anywhere near that trunk. It’s like kicking a tank.

      If the elephant was a scared little bitch. You could probably scare hunt it into exhaustion maybe, maybe

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        elephants are vengeful, they went after a deceased womans funeral after she died when she was alived and she harrassed them.