• Q*Bert Reynolds@sh.itjust.works
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    Legal Mexican immigrant: Tries to leave United States.

    Border Patrol: Oh no you don’t. We need to pad our stats with your deportation.

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    1. Why are they removing people from planes leaving the country to detain them.
    2. Wouldn’t it be better to just do the European tour and then stay in Europe at this point?
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      Yeah this is the first time I’ve heard of someone being taken while trying to leave the country. Very Kafkaesque.

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      Why are they removing people from planes leaving the country to detain them.

      Wouldn’t it be better to just do the European tour and then stay in Europe at this point?

      Because it’s just nazism. They want to imprison and harm non-white people, and they’re using “immigration” as an excuse.

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      Why are they removing people from planes leaving the country to detain them.

      From just my reading of the various news stories around ICE activity I’ve come to a few conclusions about what the internal policy must be:

      Reduce immigrant population in USA by X - Use as close to legal justifications as possible, even the weakest thinnest reasons, but also don’t be afraid to simply make stuff up if you need to deport the person. If you can get them out of the country under false reasons, then their ability to get back in becomes much harder even when US government Judicial rulings allow them back because their deportation or deportation lacking in due process was unConstitutional.

      So to accomplish this they seem to be operating in this order:

      1. Immigrants picked up by active criminal investigations unrelated to immigration status.
      2. Raids and actions seeking out immigrants who have committed no crimes, but with unsettled legal immigration status.
      3. Immigrants that travel through Border Checkpoint systems: visa renew, Green Card application, even entrances and exit points on the border. These immigrants are then threatened, coerced, or tricked into “voluntarily” surrendering their legal immigrant status at which time they are deported.
      4. Immigrants who may have committed and been convicted of minor crimes, even if many decades prior, where they have served time or otherwise paid their debt to society (even a small fine). Minor guilty plea deal marijuana possession charge from 10-15 years ago are not uncommon justification for deportation here.
      5. Immigrants that are actively engaging with government systems (as in unrelated to justice system). This can be for social services, family services, educations, or even healthcare.

      The more desperate ICE becomes to try to accomplish their primary goal, the longer this list gets on where they go and what they do.

      So to answer your question about the case here in the OP, my guess is perhaps #3 or #4. We won’t know until he’s released from custody and is able to tell us.

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      They know where they’re going to be. The person checks in and they can snag them. There’s not a 100% guarantee that the person will be on the return flight home.

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        Why didn’t they detain him before he’s on the plane though? Plenty of checks and time.

        Either they want the theatrics or some racist left a false tip because he didn’t want to sit next to some foreign looking dude.

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          I mean, I don’t know. How long is a string?

          We’re all pretty aware that this administration loves to make examples out of people, so I think you have your answer there. Gestapo aren’t here to follow the rules.

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    So is this going to be like the other green card holders - someone that publicly criticized the government and then got snatched by the brownshirts?

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    When are people going to finally start shooting ICE with guns. This needs to happen asap.

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      Soon, I bet. But you’re pretty much guaranteed to die if you do, so people have to be really desperate.

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        I’ve made up my mind already that if they try to take me or my wife, they are gonna have to kill me, and I’m gonna try as hard as I can not too die alone.

        Of course, that’s big talk from me. I’m weak, overweight, and pasty.

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          Same. But I’m not expecting them to come for me, or if they do, I expect it to be late enough in the process that’s I’ll know to expect it. The odds of any particular individual being among the first of their cohort to be attacked are very low.

          I’m trying to find ways to think bigger, though, because doing nothing while waiting for them to get around to me isn’t the legacy I want to leave.