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      We don’t know that was why they denied it, this could be shadenfreud (sp?) because they would be denied regardless.

      At least I choose to believe that, because I can’t imagine being petty enough to do that.

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        Usually, one feels Schadenfreude when something bad ‘just’ happens to somebody else, like Karma, but not due to ones own actions.

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          Not really. The best example of Schadenfreude (imo) is when you follow a sports team (probably not too many of you here on Lemmy), whenever the rival team loses you feel Schadenfreude. There doesn’t have to be any kind of ‘just-ness’ to it, actually if the rival team losses unjustly (played better, but were unlucky) the Schadenfreude is actually greater.

          Of course there are times when something bad finally happens to someone that deserves it and you feel joy from it, but I wouldn’t call that Schadenfreude, more like ‘Vergeltungsfreude’.

          While ‘Schadenfreude’ literally translates to the joy of damage, ‘Vergeltungsfreude’ would translate to the joy of retribution. Source: my German ass

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      This type of thing is the nominal purpose of credit scores, I believe. (Whether they’re implemented effectively is another story…)

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      Oh my god, yes. Your best victory is the victory of succeeding at something and moving the fuck on with your life if you can. People are shitty. Our environment is shitty. It is what it is. Keep trucking. I am a product of my environment, but I can control some of it. In my opinion, chasing your goals, time and distance is a solution for all social ills. Well maybe not all but I mean shit you gotta try

  • Six years ago my former coworker’s house burnt down and I gave them a decent amount of money, no strings.

    Three weeks ago the same person gave me a job making 30% more money than I was.

    It goes around the nice way too sometimes.

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    To normal people: be nice to kids because they need the support and encouragement to grow into stable adults with a healthy sense of self worth.

    To the selfish people: be nice to kids because you never know when you might need their mercy in the future.

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      Have you seen what kind of people a spoilt child turns into? It’s tyranny. That’s not a selling point.

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        It says a lot about you that your takeaway from my comment was that being kind and encouraging to kids is spoiling them.

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        There’s been exactly one school shooting in my country. Teacher bullied a kid whose father was a strict army man. Gave him worse grades on purpose knowing he’d have to run 20 km home for it, etc. So one day he went to school with a gun and shot that one teacher and nobody else. So that’s what a shitty teacher (and a shitty father) can do to a child.

        Wasn’t my hometown but I knew people who went to the same school at the same time. Nobody condoned the murder, but people did see where he was coming from.

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          Some people, especially teachers, burn in your memory.

          I had a same"ish" thing with a teacher who tried to flunk me but failed at his own math. Funnily the guy who couldnt count and divide gave general economics, business economics and business administration. He hated my guts and I his.

          Anyway, My average was a 8.5, he gave me a 3 for an oral exam thinking he flunked me as it was half of the total average before the written exams. He Glee fully shared my grade with the class. I reminded him as emotionless as I could that 8.5+3=11.5/2=5,75 so still a pass. And with the written exam on the horizon, which I would not screw up because I was good at it and he would be unable to screw me over on it because written exams are checked by several other teachers as well…

          He just lost it. He bursted in flames, started raging and kicked me out of all his classes for the rest of the year. This was in december/January, the exams where in may.

          Naturally I passed all his classes with even the highest grades of the school for the written exams. It was very clear to every one he tried to fuck me over when seeing the grades.

          Every teacher congratulated me. Asking me how the f i did that without any lessons. Except he. He saw me at the exam presentation, got all red and just fucking left.

          I laughed at the loser he was. I still remember the law prof smirking as well over the situation. And his name i cant remember. But this guy who tried to fuck me over because he just didnt liked me… his name is burned in my brain forever.

          And I remember all this to this day. This was in 1994. What an ass that guy was. It was also my first experience that most Adult people are not honest. And that them being nice is mostly a charade. And they will fuck you over for looking the wrong way or especially for a small percentage.

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            Every teacher congratulated me. Asking me how the f i did that without any lessons.

            Man, I hope you told the other teachers that attending his lessons would have had no impact on the test results anyways.

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          Kindergarten - Mrs. Gall 1st - Ms. Voght 2nd - Ms. Lenahan 3rd - Ms. Piper 4th - Ms. Noda 5th - Mr. Kramer (Cramer?) Orchestra - Mr. Graves

          6th & onward gets tricky because we switched teachers for each subject and had different ones every year. That list would get really long, and be highly boring to type out (and probably to read as well).

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      Not really, this is the future they built for themselves. And less debt when they’re likely on a fixed income might be a hidden blessing.

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    I’ve never heard the phrase swings and roundabouts used this way.

    Usually it means two things are similar so you don’t really have strong feelings either way.

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      Maybe that’s what they are saying? They impartially judged the application, without strong feelings. Ironically.

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        That’s not what swings and roundabouts means though. Like, not even remotely. It’s also not what I said.

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          two things are similar so you don’t really have strong feelings either way.

          Acceptance or rejection, no strong feelings either way.

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        It’s similar to “what goes around, comes around”, since swings and roundabouts go back to the same place.

        As in: If you mock someone one day, they might mock you back another day.

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          I’ve always known it to mean the same thing as “potato potAHto” or “six of one, half dozen of the other.”

          I.E. “What’s the difference between saying “potato potAHto” and “six of one, half dozen of the other.”?” To which I’d say, “Meh, swings and roundabouts.”

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            You know, we’re all coming at this like ‘wow this person is stupid and hateful, saying swings and roundabouts when they meant what goes around comes around’, but what if they actually just said it in a ‘c’est la vie’ kind of way? Like ‘well you made me sad and I made you sad. Such is life.’ Especially when you add the context of how they probably HAD to refuse said mortgage application instead of exercising leeway to do so.

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          That’s my point though. “swings and roundabouts” doesn’t have the same meaning as “what goes around comes around”. At least I didn’t think it did.

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    This reminds me of the simpsons when Lisa learns what kind of life her teachers live so she decides to be much nicer to these people who spend so much of their days with children sacrificing to a life of service and little thanks.

    But you’re the opposite.

    Face it: kids can be a lot. Sometimes you got to own that you were the little shit in someone’s life sometimes.

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      Children can’t be held to the standard of adults. Teachers certainly should be paid more but if you can’t handle working with kids teaching might not be your gig.

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        Teachers are understaffed and underpaid. You cannot even afford to be dismissive with your kid’s education.

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      You don’t get to choose. The numbers go into a spreadsheet. An answer comes out.

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        Yeah, my reading of this is that this poster took particular personal satisfaction from denying an application, but it didn’t cross my mind that there was any element of actual control or decisionmaking.

        It’s like when someone cuts you off and then crashes their car. You didn’t cause the crash, and a crashed car is a much more severe punishment than simple rudeness would deserve, but you can still derive satisfaction from the sequence of events.

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    There are some teachers I had who were absolutely bad people, but honestly, they are teachers and you are not. You already have the best revenge.

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      You’re going to send your kids to these schools. And as we start lowering the bar more and more, we’re going to have some very anti-social human beings around people’s children. And those children are going to become citizens in our society. Hurt people, hurt people, in which they shouldn’t. You should break the cycle and overthrow kings. There is a reason why things are the way they are. And if not aware, you can become a product of your environment.

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    I’ve held an interview with one of my former school bullies from highschool for a position under my team. I only had a suspicion when I came across the resume, but I just knew it was him when I saw his face on cam.

    It was nice seeing him fumble over the curveball technical questions that I threw at him, and told HR that he wasn’t only a poor fit, but not to even send a follow up response l either.

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      Not a school bully but more of an adult would-be bully/asshole. I saw his resume come across my bpss’s desk and I made sure he didnt even get considered for an interview. Feels good man.

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      Did you ask him to respond to something or is sending thank yous or reaching out for being interviewed expected?

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    You get what you give. Don’t become the monster. A real class act would just dangle it in front of them and then just approve it anyways. Like bitch I’m over it, I don’t give a fuck. You’re just a dumb ass speed bump.

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      Being a class act is extremely overrated. People should get what they have coming

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        Why not both? Give people who deserve it grace and be the bigger person and burn those that don’t to the ground.

        Of course, if you find out that they did deserve grace later, you’ll need to destroy the biggest monster of all, yourself.

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      Maybe the mortgage application was just not within approval guidelines. It is not like a bank clerk gets to arbitrarily decide by personal sympathy.

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          Where else do you get mortgages?

          I mean, technically you can contract a mortgage between any two legally able persons.

          But I’d say a mortgage between private individuals is a rare exception.

          Usually it is bank/credit unions, or corporations specializing in mortgages as their primary business. But I think you can lump most of those under the umbrella term. At least as far as their employees being able to just approve or deny you for personal reasons.

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            The person who runs these things is not the clerk. There is no implication that they were the clerk in the transaction. They could be, but that’s not implied at ALL. No matter how many worthless shitbags downvote the truth.