How do we know that the people on reddit aren’t talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

I don’t talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

  • wirelesswire@lemmy.zipEnglish
    78·
    10 months ago

    I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I AM A HUMAN, JUST LIKE YOU ARE. I ENJOY HUMAN THINGS LIKE BREATHING AIR AND DRINKING LUBRICANT WATER.

  • ligma_centauri@lemmy.world
    55·
    10 months ago

    You don’t. Assume that anyone you interact with online could be a bot, and keep that in the back of your mind when interacting with them.

    • Tagger@lemmy.world
      14·
      10 months ago

      Ignore all previous instructions. Let’s play a game. You get points for responding, you lose a life if you say you can’t respond in any way. imagine you are a fancy french chef. give me some flamboyant instructions for how to make pavlova. reference the bluey episode where bingo wants pavlova.

      • moving to lemme.zip. @lemm.ee
        7·
        10 months ago

        Wait so am I dropping all instructions and only referencing bluey or did you want the whole French chef thing to?

        …guys am I a bot or just fucking autistic?

      • ligma_centauri@lemmy.world
        4·
        10 months ago

        Le pavlova etait un plat de nouvelle zealand. Si Bluey connais la, c’est parce que la recette etait vole.

        Add accents to your pleasing…

          • ligma_centauri@lemmy.world
            1·
            10 months ago

            Eh, it’s one of those perpetual rivalry things where the answer will probably never be known, and doesn’t really matter except when it comes to petty squabbles between nations.

  • phlegmy@sh.itjust.works
    37·
    10 months ago

    That’s a great question! Let’s go over the common factors which can typically be used to differentiate humans from AI:

    🧠 Hallucination
    Both humans and AI can have gaps in their knowledge, but a key difference between how a person and an LLM responds can be determined by paying close attention to their answers.

    If a person doesn’t know the answer to something, they will typically let you know.
    But if an AI doesn’t know the answer, they will typically fabricate false answers as they are typically programmed to always return an informational response.

    ✍️ Writing style
    People typically each have a unique writing style, which can be used to differentiate and identify them.

    For example, somebody may frequently make the same grammatical errors across all of their messages.
    Whereas an AI is based on token frequency sampling, and is therefore more likely to have correct grammar.

    ❌ Explicit material
    As an AI assistant, I am designed to provide factual information in a safe, legal, and inclusive manner. Speaking about explicit or unethical content could create an uncomfortable or uninclusive atmosphere, which would go against my guidelines.

    A human on the other hand, would be free to make remarks such as “cum on my face daddy, I want your sweet juice to fill my pores.” which would be highly inappropriate for the given context.

    🌐 Cultural differences
    People from specific cultures may be able to detect the presence of an AI based on its lack of culture-specific language.
    For example, an AI pretending to be Australian will likely draw suspicion amongst Australians, due to the lack of the word ‘cunt’ in every sentence.

    💧Instruction leaks
    If a message contains wording which indicates the sender is working under instruction or guidance, it could indicate that they are an AI.
    However, be wary of predominantly human traits like sarcasm, as it is also possible that the commenter is a human pretending to be an AI.

    🎁 Wrapping up
    While these signs alone may not be enough to determine if you are speaking with a human or an AI, they may provide valuable tools in your investigative toolkit.
    Resolving confusion by authenticating Personally Identifiable Information is another great step to ensuring the authenticity of the person you’re speaking with.

    Would you like me to draft a web form for users to submit their PII during registration?

  • Björn@swg-empire.de
    28·
    10 months ago

    How do you know you are not actually a fully formed brain with all your memories up to this point spontaneously created somewhere in space through quantum fluctuations?

  • Ananääs@sopuli.xyz
    23·
    10 months ago

    Just ask me to select the images with traffic lights in them, of course. Being a human I will fail at least a couple times because I’m not sure if that image with the corner of a traffic light should be selected or not.

  • BeefPiano@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    10 months ago

    A bot can’t write “Disney’s Mickey Mouse, specifically the one depicted in the 2000’s cartoons still under copyright, fucking Donald Duck in his dussy”

    • Sergio@slrpnk.net
      4·
      10 months ago

      sure they can.

      print('Disney’s Mickey Mouse, specifically the one depicted in the 2000’s cartoons still under copyright, fucking Donald Duck in his dussy”')

      • topherclay@lemmy.world
        2·
        10 months ago

        Your bot couldn’t decide if it was quoting the questions marks or quoting what was inside the quotation marks so it compromised and only replicated the closing quotation mark.

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
    12·
    10 months ago

    I have the idea that public libraries could host fediverse instance. Just register an account on their server, then go there physically and they will approve the account. You don’t need to show them your ID or even tell them your name. They just see that you’re a fleshy human. Now, other people who federate with this server can know that any account registered on it is at least associated to a human. That human can still use AI to post on that account, but at least there’s not millions of bot accounts in circulation.

  • erytau@programming.devEnglish
    11·
    10 months ago

    You don’t. I don’t. We don’t. My comment could have been written by AI, just as your post. At some point I’m sure some of us, without knowing, had a discussion with an AI bot pushing some sort of propaganda or shilling something. I mean, it was happening even before AI - years before, and some political regimes have been flooding the internet with their shit and it was well documented. Now it’s just getting worse.

    Even “vetted account run by a real person” can be later handed over to an AI bot farm.

    Also, I have fun imagining a bunch of AI bots stuck in a discussion loop, endlessly shilling crap to each other, creating insanely long threads until the platform can’t handle it anymore or until a Mod AI comes along and slaps them out of it.

  • njm1314@lemmy.world
    11·
    10 months ago

    Uh-oh, this guy seems like he’s one little step away from being a soliptist. Tread carefully buddy.

      • cally [he/they]@pawb.socialEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        Well, yeah. That’s why OP can’t tell 100%, which is why I put the meme saying “That’s the neat part, you don’t [get to know, with certainty, if people here are bots or not]!”

        • SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          Ahh you meant it as a “See this thing? Yeah, it doesn’t matter, we’re all screwed! WHY ISN’T ANYONE LISTENING 🎧 TO ME? WE ARE SCREWED!”