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Originally Posted By u/Ok_Presentation_940 At 2025-06-03 06:47:38 PM | Source
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“Forced” so… you dont want to volunteer report information that can save children from abuse… jesus must be very proud.
confessionals are supposed to be confidential…
Therapy is also supposed to be confidential but exceptions are made when someone is in danger.
I understand the therapy mandatory reporting (for other people’s lives in danger not the patient’s own); but confessionals are, as far as I am aware, supposed to be for confessing sins to a deity and only travel through the priest as a message. Like how the post office more or less can’t legally open first class mail without a warrant.
Whos gonna get mad, God? Idk about you, but i wouldnt want to worship a deity that gets angry for you using privilege information to prevent horrible acts, especially toward ones that cant defend themselves.
Like how the post office more or less can’t legally open first class mail without a warrant.
If you want to use this analogy, it would be more like sending a postcard which obviously doesnt need a warrant to see the message…
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It’s ironically one of the main things that Shouldn’t be confidential.
There’s only one kind of person who wouldn’t be on board with this
Here’s the thing - priests are perfectly willing to go to jail over this. The seal of confession is extremely important to Catholic practice, and a priest would rather go to jail than break it. I am not a Catholic, but the seal of confession has been long respected by US law as it pertains to religious freedom, and it’s such a long established part of Catholic practice that it’s hard to imagine Catholic life without it. I think this is a serious blow to religious freedom, even if I don’t personally agree with the practice it is attacking. Realistically all this will do, even in the “best case” scenario where priests actually comply, is make people not confess to these things in the first place. From a civil standpoint this is essentially equivalent to the situation where confession is sealed, but according to Catholic beliefs this is horrible as it removes the possibility of redemption for the perpetrator. Now you or I might think that child abuse is an unforgivable sin worthy of eternal damnation with no possibility of forgiveness, but that’s not what Catholics believe. They believe that everyone should have a chance to confess their sins and atone for them, which is impossible without telling a priest about them.
breaking the seal of confession is an automatic excommunication. No-one need to even recognise this, the priest just needs to know that they are doing it. The moment they break it they are no longer a priest nor part of the church
Pope can change this rule.he doesn’t want to protect the children?
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I’m of two minds about this. On the one hand, I feel like, if somebody admits to molesting a child to a priest, then the priest should report that to the correct legal people to deal with that.
But on the other hand, as a person who has religious practices ingrained into my behavior, I can understand, it’s like I don’t imagine that the people that are evil pedophiles are the kind of people to go and brag about it with their pastor.
What the ideal scenario in this case would be is that the pedophile confesses to the priest and then turns themselves in.
The next best scenario would be that the pedophile confesses to the priest, and then at least does not ever commit pedophilia again.
I’m not expecting clemency for pedophiles. Don’t get me wrong.
But making it so that pedophiles can’t even confess their sins without immediately being hauled off to The nearest jail cell is not going to actually decrease the amount of pedophilia in the world. Instead, it’s going to convince pedophiles with religious leanings to accept that their souls are condemned to hell and some of them are gonna choose to go out with a bang.
There’s another possible scenario of a child making the confession because they’re feeling guilty about the sexual act despite being a victim.
That is a good point.
I can’t imagine that the current confessional protections apply in that scenario.
Any priest who would hear a confession from a child who was sexually assaulted and then hides it should probably go to jail themselves.
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Nope. Child sexual abuse doesn’t work that way.
Most child sexual abuse is done in a way that is pleasurable for the child, by people the child loves and cares about.
They by default will almost certainly not want their abuser to be punished, but this is the one thing that shouldnt be allowed.
Why?
Because most people who sexually abuse a child do not stop at one child. It’s not just about punishing the pedo for the act, it’s also about stopping them from pedoing again.
That’s why we have sex offender registries.
Lmao fuckin christ, they just wanna cosplay and abuse the weak not snitch on the bros. Stuck 2 the code huh
The Bishop’s objection to the law is that there is no exemption for information learned in Confession ceremony specifically.
I don’t see any objection in the article for reporting information gathered anywhere else.
The Bishop’s objection to the law is that there is no exemption for information learned in Confession ceremony specifically.
imho it doesn’t matter.
I’ve always thought Christianity was a pedophile religion. It’s nice to see the Catholic Church fully admitting that.
