Trump just desperately wants to nuke something. Anything’s fine, he just wants to drop a nuclear bomb on stuff. I mean, he was floating nuking a goddamned hurricane before.
He’s like a toddler that sees a big red button and just HAS to push it, because it’s just there and it’s so big and red and it will make things go boom!
He should start a youtube channel that tests dropping nukes on various things
Just like the original video for Land Of Confusion where senile Reagan in a hospital bed pushing the NUKE button that’s next to the NURSE button.
I don’t trust him not to nuke even NYC.
I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but I think NYC would be off limits because it’s his “home” where he “has the tallest building because of 9/11” and other dumbass beliefs. Basically, he wouldn’t want to harm his precious Trump Tower.
LA though? Yeah, he might just fuckin do it.
Yep, I know. But that’s my point. I don’t even trust him that far.
If the United States drops a nuke, the world needs to unite against us.
The world should do that now.
They kinda already are, looking at Gaza vote in UN.
The West for the most part isn’t. Relations between Europe and America have gotten more antagonistic, but for the most part the former is toeing the latter’s party line.
The right has been talking about nuking the Middle East for decades. They now have “one of theirs” (a “common man” who believes in the things the common MAGA believes), who is just stupid enough to actually do it. I’m taking things day by day.
Maybe we need to unite against ourselves too, can’t just hope on others to do the right thing, gotta pitch in.
Correct. Im sure half the country will join the resistance and fight from within. We do need to handle our own, but im talking about nukes.
Sorry the be pedantic, but why not link the original source?
Since it’s their inside sources.
Especially, because the original article states „Trump is not considering using a tactical nuclear weapon on Fordow and the possibility was not presented by defense secretary Pete Hegseth and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff Gen Dan Caine in meetings in the White House situation room, two people familiar with the matter said.“ while the linked article here implies that this option is considered.
Exactly. Hence the importance of linking the original source…
I can’t understand why anyone would believe anything a tangerine tyrant says he will or won’t do, until we see it happen or not.
Did you even read the article you linked? The fuckin “source” you got your panties in a bunch over arent even cited beyond, “according to people familiar with the deliberations.” They dont even say its their own source in their own article you dolt.
“according to people familiar with the deliberations.”
Afaik that is synonymous/how journalist say “inside source”.
To expand on Shrubbery, you can read the Guardian’s editorial standards and the base ones they follow: https://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2011/08/08/EditorialGuidelinesAug2011.pdf
according to people familiar with the…
In journalism, this is common lingo for “our journalists personally communicated with sources (more that one) that wish to remain anonymous.” It’s the guardian’s legwork and integrity for shielding anon sources here, not them copying it from some other site (which they’d link if they did).
Trump is as dumb as a sack of hammers, and he’s looking for a nail. He just wants to treat nukes like playthings, a rich man’s flex. Just to say he did. Like a canned trophy hunt of a Lion from the safety of helicopters and trucks with everyone around him at his paid service. No risk, no personal jeopardy. Drop the bomb for lols just to experience the fact he did it and will brag about it.
Hey guys, how about we nuke the wind?
If he drops a nuke, he instantly becomes the most dangerous man in history, they only guy willing to use a nuke for normal war purposes (for which there are nearly infinite alternative options), and to flex his ego (which has no limit). Now when he threatens a country, they will have to believe him, because he’s done it before.
With that in mind, I would think nearly every nation with a highly organized covert intelligence service would decide that it’s time to remove that threat from the planet.
What a shitty country.
Trump cheated to win the election. Most Americans are against him.
edit: I’m not just saying this, there’s evidence to suggest it
However, yes, the country is shit right now. I agree.
Most Americans might be against him, but the majority of those that voted voted for him. People’s apathy and the DNC continually being useless helped Trump win.
Lol. No. Fsce rey reality of your country, otherwise you’ll be unable to fix it.
Most Americans are against him.
I’ll believe it when I see it. What I see is Trump and his ICE Brownshorts running all over the place with almost zero resistance.
He has an almost 50% approval rating from Americans so while you’re technically correct, that’s still a ridiculous amount of Americans who like him
That’s not the statistic I’ve seen. It was in the 30s last I saw. Among Republicans it was still fairly high, like 60s, and higher among MAGA, but the general public was much lower. Can you cite a recent source for your number? Otherwise, I’ll bolo for some updated numbers.
These are the stats I found:
- According to the most recent Gallup poll, Trump’s job approval rating was 43% in May.
- The Economist shows that 41% of people are favorable of Trump and 53% are unfavorable of him, according to the latest update from June 20.
- Rasmussen Reports poll from June 20 showed 52% approval and 47% disapproval of Trump.
- The Morning Consult tracker poll taken mid-June has dropped to 46% approval rating and 52% who disapprove.
- A Reuters/Ipsos poll reported that, as of June 16, 42% of those surveyed gave him a favorable approval rating of his performance in office.
- An InsiderAdvantage poll taken between June 15-16 showed Trump with 54.4% approval over a 44.1% disapproval of his job performance.
From here
Nice work, mate. Good on ya! (I’m watching Bluey with my kids right now) Looks like I’ve been outdated.
Well, the rest of Americans need to wake tf up. It’s going to take most of us to right the ship. Fuck the rich, fuck the racists/sexists/homophobes/etc., and fuck any MAGAts who somehow aren’t covered by the previous.
Fuck the rich, fuck the racists/sexists/homophobes/etc., and fuck any MAGAts who somehow aren’t covered by the previous
100% agreed
Ffs, by what half baked metrics are people rating that guy?
Most Americans are against him
Most Americans should have showed up to vote, then. Or not protest vote for a limp-dick 3rd party. As far as I’m concerned, most Americans are in support of what he’s doing, because they didn’t show otherwise on election day.
Iran’s a shitty country.
Why?
(not who you replied to) We can be anti-zionists without being pro-Iran. They have a horrific history of human rights abuses. Their sovereignty is being violated, but their government is not a good one.
No no. Not pro-Iran government, just curious what the specific reason are for calling it a shit country.
That oompa lumpa of ours just wants to drop a nuke. I vote we not and tell him we did. Also all of his press conferences and appearances henceforth will be accompanied by a 90’s sitcom style laugh track.
We could just show him videos of nuclear tests and he would probably fall for it. Fucking idiot.
Jokes and laugh tracks are how humans normalize things, if anything it needs to begin with ’attention bajoran workers’ and some eerie music.
Nuking them to prevent them getting nukes? Why do you think they want them in the first place? Now they will want them even harder. Should try to bribe their way into getting access to US nukes, just need a white supremacist asshole techbro to do the talking and they’ll give you whatever you want.
Unleashing megagodzilla just to stop godzilla. So smart you couldnt believe it. Very rational and very cool
Over the series’ history, the films have reflected the social and political climate in Japan. In the original film, Godzilla was an allegory for the effects of nuclear weapons, and the consequences that such weapons might have on Earth
It is so odd that this info being publicized…
They are trying to scare Iran into giving into what they want.
He thinks this is a genius plan.
It’s stupid.
He will chicken out and give the nukes to them… And call it the most brilliant thing anyone has ever done
they just want to test how much public outcry there would be
Seems to me, like there is EXTREMELY, next to zero, or perhaps zero reason to ever HAVE to use a nuke. Nuke’s should be a defensive deterrent, not a first choice. I’m sure the military has plenty of other options.
There are 13k ton bombs that can penetrate pretty deep dropped by B2 bombers, which might be headed to the ME right now.
The B2s will be flown into Diego Garcia. The only time they will be in the middle east is if they are over a target. Hopefully they stay in Diego Garcia.
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hole nobody wants anybody to ho down.
If this series of murderous far right zionist military adventures proves anything, its that American politicians will ho themselves down any hole.
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Well, they did it. Now Iran will lash out and close the straits of Hormuz. It’s the only threat that they can carry out now…
…and we’ll sink the ships, and have dogfights over the sea, and it will escalate, and hello World War 3!
I was hoping they could wait a few more years so I’d be too old to be drafted, but looks like I’ll be twerking in Tehran
No, resist the draft. Drafts are evil, do ANYTHING to avoid fighting a MAGA War. My son is the perfect draft age, and he is NEVER going to fight for MAGA. If they want it so bad, the MAGAs can sacrifice their own.
Get a doctor to say your son has bone spurs.
Indeed, on Tuesday Trump said, “I don’t care” that the U.S. intelligence community has assessed that Iran isn’t building a nuclear weapon, according to his own top intelligence official.
Pakistan saying they would nuke Israel if Israel nuked Iran probably was the only thing holding Israel back from pulling the trigger. If there was ever a group of people who should never be permitted to have nuclear weapons, its the Israelis.
Don’t worry guys we’re not going to war.
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Too late, we’ve been at war for a long time.
I would have to think using nukes on a country that doesn’t have nuclear power would be a slam dunk illegal order. Like, I mean, if he says to do it, the guys that make that happen, top to bottom, should say, “No, this is an illegal order, and i am not going to follow it.”
If such an order is followed and nothing is forthcoming from some checking force in the federal government, I think i may have lost faith in humanity as a concept. This is the great filter. Can we be trusted as a species?
Upfront: it should be obvious that no sane person wants us to drop a nuke or thinks there’s any connotation of “okay” to any aspect of it.
Why do you think it would be an illegal order? There are very clear rules on what makes an order legal or not and, horribly, attacking a nation that poses no real threat isn’t on the list. What nations we attack is a policy matter, and the rules are very clear that the military doesn’t get a say in policy.
Explicitly targeting civilians for a strike on a city is where the line would be. Targeting something else in the city and deciding the civilians are acceptable collateral damage is right on the line. Legally, it’s entirely unambiguously evil morally.There are checks that keep the president from unilaterally launching a nuke. Unfortunately, the intent of those is to ensure the president is legally competent and actually the president, not to ensure he’s wise or rational.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Hering
The system has been explicitly designed to minimize the risk of conscience preventing a launch. Issue training orders where the firing crews have no idea if it’s real or not. Keep them on two week rotations where they don’t have access to the outside world so they wouldn’t know. Specifically select for people who will follow the order because it’s validcand legal, without considering the greater context. People who are legitimately confused but ultimately unconcerned with protests against them specifically doing what they do, including clergy from their own religion. (Actual story of an ICBM operators reaction to nuns protesting and attempting to block access to the missile site he was stationed at)
There is no doubt in my mind that if the order were given and the VP and cabinet didn’t remove him, that the order would be followed.
I mean, technically, Congress has to declare wars. But no president cared about this since WW2
People think everything they don’t like is illegal.
Don’t get me wrong, it should be illegal to do a preemptive nuclear strike, it just sadly isn’t.
It might not be feasible for the entire chain to have the information needed to make that call, but there is definitely someone in military authority positioned to know if it’s defensive or offensive, and that person should be both allowed and obligated to refuse the order if it’s an offensive strike.
Morality and the law may not be equivalent, but it would certainly be more convenient if they were closer.
I suppose what I mean is that he doesn’t just have a big red button on his desk labeled Iran that he can press when he chooses.
We’ve stood up a system over many years, and he’s just barrelled through every norm/law/etc. up to and including having his sentence reduced to 0 on felonies, simply because he’s a politician. If we cannot protect ourselves from this man launching a nuclear weapon, or even hold him responsible, then we don’t deserve to survive beyond our planet and the resulting catastrophic collapse of society may be the best thing for the universe overall.
If we cannot […] hold him responsible
Is him launching (or ordering to launch) a nuke considered as an official act? Just asking…
