Edited to add - To be clear for anyone, it’s Oligarchs/Billionaires paired with rampant, unfettered corporate greed. (at least in my view)
Someone reminded me that I was using dogwhistle parlance in my use of they which may have suggested otherwise.
Here are some visual aids to accompany my clarification:
The end of that one Brother Ali song, I have no idea who the vocalist for that part is.
They keep sayin’ we’re free…
But we’re all just loose.
You ain’t free, you’re just free range.
This is the crux of many a sci-fi stories where humanity is controlled by aliens.
Brother Ali don’t miss
💯
I had no idea this was showing up a couple months ago, and what a treat it is!
Uncle Sam Goddamn
I know this isn’t what you intended, but you gotta be careful on the Internet saying ‘guess who ‘they’ are’, cos a lotta places on the Internet ask this and the answer is supposed to be ‘jews’
Yes, that’s a great point that I hadn’t considered.
To be clear for anyone, it’s Oligarchs/Billionaires paired with rampant, unfettered corporate greed. (at least in my view)
I thought you just meant capitalists in general, TBH.
I thought it was the lizard people?
What did you think that was a euphemism for?
The illuminati?
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It’s both, depending on the specific conspiracy theorists.
Just like not all “infowarriors” know that “the globalists” means “the Jews” and “populist” means “rich, white, racist” in the code of Alex Jones.
And what does “frogs” and “gay” mean in the code of Alex Jones?
Literally “frogs changing gender” but basically it’s a pretense for homophobia and “globalist” scaremongering.
I wasn’t actually sure when i wrote it (it just sounded “truthy”), but I just checked and found this:
Some adherents of the QAnon conspiracy theory have also borrowed from the reptilian conspiracy theory, including elements shared in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
Yeah I can’t think what else OP could mean though? All the other answers I can think of are too broad and obvious for “three guesses” to be a thing you’d ask.
Honestly, I thought OP meant billionaires/capitalists. Jews did not even cross my mind.
Edit: clarity
Right, but saying “three guesses” implies that the answer is something that’s slightly hidden. “Capitalists” doesn’t really make sense because it’s essentially going “three guesses who it is that’s doing all this capitalism… that’s right, capitalists!”. If OP didn’t intend it as an antisemitic dogwhistle then it’s an odd title for other reasons.
(edit: I just had a glance through their post history and I think it’s probably not supposed to be a dogwhistle, but just unfortunately titled; I think maybe OP just assumed everyone reading it were already on the same page on whatever specific thing they themselves blame capitalism on?)
Right, but saying “three guesses” implies that the answer is something that’s slightly hidden.
Or that it’s very obvious and they’re being sarcastic.
That’s what I meant by “slightly”. It’s an expression that gets used when we all know the answer but it’s one that’s slightly under the surface.
3 guesses: Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg
One would need to be way out there deep into White Supremacist/Nazi territory to think “Jews” is the answer to that “riddle”.
Whilst the Far-Right is in resurgence in the West, they’re way more likely to be rabidly anti-Immigrant and Islamophobic than they are rabidly anti-Semitic, so I would be massively surprised that here in Lemmy there were more than a handful (if any at all) of people who read that and thought that was actually the answer (and no, thinking it might be misinterpreted as such isn’t the same as actually thinking that’s actually the answer)
Society works exactly as expected for the capitalists. At the end of the day we’re only dollars to them.
Often both political parties answer to capitalist with Representatives that are also capitalists with absolutely no way to force them to answer to the people.
It’s time to let this system go and switch to something new. Electoralism will not save us.
Time to do a socialism.
I think literally any type of socialist system will be better than what we have 😮💨
Yes, litterally, “good things are better than bad things.”
That’s funny because primary turnout is generally appalling, and still bad in general elections.
Oh so you have a magic switch that’s going to make everybody come out and vote right?
Because a ton of people have been burned by already trying to vote to fix the system That does not want to be fixed.
Oh so your magic switch is a new party in a fptp system or revolution? Good luck with that.
So why make a comment about voter turnout when voter turnout has never been good in a country where the government does not represent the will of the people.
Good luck trying to get all the apathetic people who have been screwed so so much by the system that won’t help them to vote.
That’s for sure going to be easier than talking to people about the reason why our system sucks and building a new one. 🤙
Yeah people that can’t be assed to vote are going to create a whole new system.
Good luck. Maybe fine tune nuclear fusion while youre at it.
Your political affiliation based on what came to your mind when you read the title
At this point the answer should be billionaires regardless of affiliation.
Found the Left-Libertarian
lol. I get the joke. Still, I just think anyone work a working brain should be able to notice that
- the bourgeoise just follows their masters
- neither Bezos nor Musk are Jews
- that “we” are not powerful enough unless we’re billionaires
You can hate Jews, brown people, black people, gingers, trans people and others as much as you want and still recognize that.
Unless your brain isn’t working right (eg MAGA) or you are economically benefiting (eg bourgeoisie). I guess you could put that onto a 2d graph as well.
Everyone believes that their hatred is more righteous than everyone else’s.
Saying left libertarian is like saying anarcho-capitalist but it sounds dumber.
It means non-authoritarian and anti-capitalist. The US version of libertarian, which are just capitalists that want the market to be the government, is not the definition of the word.
is not the definition of the word.
Unfortunately, though, it is now. At least here.
On that note, you know many words have multiple definitions, so even if a definition colloquially exists, that differs from the one of most wide use, doesn’t mean that in that local, the wider use case is suddenly void.
anarcho-communist sounds even more retarded tbh
I think the libertarian left quadrant is the only valid one, and it’s become very obvious at this point
The global economy is this monster of debt and overly clever math that is actively collapsing, there’s no fixing it, and even if we did somehow, each boom-bust is exponentially larger than the last one
And if you take the economy out of the equation, it’s a really simple question. Do you want people to suffer or not? Are you pro-horrors beyond comprehension, or do you prefer less suffering?
So yep… We should all be calling them the billionaires at this point
A) What the fuck are billionaires? The bourgeoisie.
B) What facilitates this perversion? The bourgeois system.
Billionaires aren’t the problem they’re the symptoms of disease. Rejection of this fact shows the early stages of your radicalization.
Accurate AF
Might as well replace Jews with Muslims these days. Not that the far right types who blame Jews don’t exist anymore… most of them just shifted focus.
Literally everyone.
Most people think this shit. They’re all complicit.
Bloody apathetic species. I’ve no sympathy at all.
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please stop doing capitalism mr burgerpocalypse
I beg of you, please stop. Please end this suffering.
Dammit, burgerpocalypse! How could you‽
The F’d up thing is that being solid middle class and having sufficient income to help with a kid’s college money, put away money to actually retire, and pay a mortgage is top 10%. That’s literally what middle class was 50 years ago. Now you have to be a ~10%-er to do it.
I make twice the average household income where I am by myself. I’m doing okay, but like, not great at the same time. How the fuck are other people surviving???
Edit: Just kidding, I got the stats wrong, I make a bit above average household on my own, not twice. Point still stands, however.
Barely.
Yeah, remember when “Wow, I could make $100,000 a year?” was impressive? It was not that long ago.
It’s still better than what most people make, but it’s really not a lot anymore.
And that isn’t an accident. It’s by design.
It’s a race to the bottom. Go look for a job now. Your best offers are less than half what they should be. They want masters degrees and a decade of experience for “entry level” work. The more desperately poor people there are the less they can offer to recruit. Less pay, fewer benefits.
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Don’t forget the $1.4T/year they took out of the economy to squander on elaborate, invasive, predatory mass surveillance, serial racialized harassment, and overseas mass murder, in the name of peace and security.
They made healthcare a commodity, education a dept trap and housing a speculation market - then told you that poverty is a personal failing. They privatized survival and called it freedom.
They made healthcare a commodity, education a dept trap and housing a speculation market - then told you that poverty is a personal failing. They privatized survival and called it freedom.
I’m bad about remembering Alt Text apologies. I will edit to add now if it will let me.
Surely it’s the opposing team in the political theater that is to blame
Left: “We should have socialized healthcare, education, and housing.”
Right: “We should have rent-seeking in healthcare, education, and housing.”
You: “Both sides are the same.”
Please don’t confuse performance and policy. Obviously the Democrats must give pro-social concessions to stay in power and the Republicans are now all-in on performative cruelty but neither one will ever touch the structural cruelty inherent to our society.
That’s true. The government of the USA is pretty fucked up in many ways and there isn’t really a strong left wing party at all.
Sounds like you’re confused about the teams
By all means enlighten me
US Democrats are not our kind of left. Hence why you should support actually left leaning candidates who present sound policy when possible.
I guess it sounds like we agree. This is the risk of snarky internet comments
Left: “We should have socialized healthcare, education, and housing.”
I mean, there’s The Left[Hakeem Jefferies/Gavin Newsom] and The Left[Bernie Sanders/JD Pritsker/Jeremy Corbyn] and then The Left[the DSA kids distributing food and fresh clothing to my nearby homeless encampment]. These are three very different flavors of Left.
You: “Both sides are the same.”
A big part of the problem with liberal democratic politics is how deeply co-opted all these parties have become. At the end of the day, John Thune and Chuck Schumer, Boris Johnson and Keir Starmer, Mark Carney and Pierre Poilievre all bend the knee to Jamie Diamon and Jeff Bezos and Muhammad bin Salmon.
Wish it weren’t so, but that’s the world we live in.
Coming back and rereading this. I see that you used Left and Right rather than the R vs D show teams, that’s my bad
The cinnamon thing isn’t even a hypothetical, that’s literally based on real (recent) events in the US.
Maybe if y’all weren’t so scared to “throw your vote away”.
And yet they’re all for government intervention when it’s stuff like zoning (telling you where and how you’re allowed to live) or copyright (telling you what ideas you’re allowed to share)…
“It’s both sides”
If you’re talking about American politics, then yes, both parties uphold capitalism and its innate unjust power structures.
You can vote for the lesser evil all day, but in the end it will take revolution to root out evil entirely.
Market economy is really really bad in a capitalistic system. One giant buys everything and controls everything.
