• SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    9 months ago

    It’s unbelievable how little we’ve done to regulate social media and allowed it to damage society.

    Dalhousie researcher says social media influencers like Andrew Tate affecting student behaviour

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      All in the name of American tech profits “free speech”.

      Billionaires buy up media to control the narrative and they agree with the vitriol so it stays as “free speech”; but because not speaking is also free speech other things just get buried.

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      You can never completely regulate the internet and it’s absolutely pointless to try.

      You can regulate your child on the internet though, which I also think is pointless to try but it’s more effective than the government stepping in

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          If I break FAA regulations on an AM broadcast they’ll knock on my door in a few hours.

          If I start spreading Nazi propaganda they’ll trace the paper back to the source.

          If I empty Grandma’s bank account into Bitcoin. It’s fucking gone and nobody is going to find me.

          That’s the difference the older generation doesn’t seem to understand.

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              It’s untraceable until you withdraw, which you can do in plenty of countries anonymously.

              My point being that comparing the internet to other industries in regards to regulation isn’t going to have the same behaviour.

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                  Bitcoin scams are busted all the time, because they don’t understand how to use the correct process to stay anonymous.

                  If you wanna keep personally insulting me, go ahead but I’m not falling for “BS propaganda” I’m talking from experience. If you use the right tools the only way you will ever get caught with Bitcoin is when you make a withdrawal.

                  Tracing Bitcoin is possible I admit but tying it to a person is impossible until you go to pick up.

                  As for the original topic on regulation, I’ll stand my ground. You can try to regulate but they internet will always find a work around. Always has, always will.

                  If your just talking about YouTube and Meta than our ideas of the internet is very, very different. The internet isn’t tied to big corperations like you think, those are just the ISPs the majority uses.

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            But if a billionaire meddles with their social media platform’s algorithm is such a way, that it boosts whatever will help them get more tax breaks, we should just lay back and enjoy it. Free speech baby!

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        You can never completely regulate the internet…

        True enough.

        …and it’s absolutely pointless to try.

        Um, no. Absolutely worthwhile to establish a reasonable non-destructive internet. Bad players will always find ways - they always have - but they can and should be relegated to the fringes where they have to work to have their voices heard, not be amplified by the biggest platforms in existence.

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          And what happens when the wrong people get in power and use that regulation to their advantage to prevent their opposition from being heard?

          That’s how you end up with Fascism

          Maybe we should focus on educating the population to be aware of the danger so they don’t fall for it instead of just throwing pointless policy at it

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            That’s how you end up with Fascism

            It really wasn’t how we ended up with fascism in the actual instance of fascism so…

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      THATS THE least of thier problems, its on the parents, and the kids are probably watching right wing influencers on thier non-school hours. as you know its also crucial for RW governments to have access to a pipeline of conservative men, mysogyny plays a big role and attacking education.

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    Hold parents responsible for their failures. Suspend kids for their shitty behaviour, this leave parents to scramble to find childcare or forces them to miss work. After enough financial hits they are going to care, at least tangentially, about their children’s behaviour.

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      I agree that the parents could pick up some slack but as a society we should make things easier for parents.

      In itself while the article is about children but I think at this point it’s clear there’s a large if not larger segment of adults falling for this stuff. e.g. Conservative who despise taxes but they love Trump who with tariffs is taxing the hell out of people.

      We’re really talking about children and people who have the mental capacity of children.

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    I wonder if these kids say this stuff around their parents, and if so, how the parent responds?

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    Sometimes it is difficult for parents to limit access of their kids to social media, but they surely can control the narrative.

    Talk to your kids and mold their opinion on things, can prevent them from falling for the crap online.

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      its mostly on the parents, a good one usually dont let them have one until there in thier late or mid teens not before. or the parents that WAITED too long to finally start raising thier children, and embarrasing them in public. i had a parent that did that when i was in HS, came to the school often to “moniter” his son, and was making remarks how she cared about his son more than ours, we were thinking "bitch you waited too long to raise him, and waited til he almost graduated in the same semester to FINALLY change him, he already set his mind on doing the bare minimum, you shouldve done that before he was in high school, by the time you reach sophmore and junior its already too late, thats when you are planning college and studying the SAT tests, and career field.