Yes, I’m aware I can curse on the internet - it’s not my first day here. I use the exact words I mean to use, and I’m more a fan of the precision F-strike than indiscriminately carpet-bombing the place with “fucks”. Stop word-policing me (and others).
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Yeah, this went over about as well as expected. And the irony and hypocrisy of the free speech absolutists coming out of the woodwork to tell us all what we can and can’t say is not lost on me.
Fuck that self-censorship bullshit.
You can use expletives, or you can use words that aren’t expletives to express what you want to say. Both are valid choices.
Using bowdlerized versions of expletives like a child trying to get away with “naughty” words or a YouTuber/TikToker trying to prevent being demonetized, though? That’s unnecessary to the point of obnoxiousness in an uncensored environment like Lemmy.
That’s fine and all, but sometimes it’s funny to use good place style censorship, sometimes people want to keep their language appropriate for cleaner circumstances as they struggle with code switching, and sometimes people want to repost something they saw online without uncensoring it.
Personally I don’t give a flying fuck, a hot damn, a fucking shit, or whatever other expletive one prefers to express indifference and I do hate the rise of advertiser friendly censorship, but also I don’t know if I’m more tired of the complaints about it and complaints about the word “slams” in news headlines, but both are about as certain as finding “first” in a 2010 comments section.
If one wants to keep their cirumstances clean they can chose to not use the word fuck in any way at all. And if you are tired about people protesting censorship your future is gonna be really annoying.
If they don’t want to use those expletives we don’t have to take it in a censored way (our ears are not a toilet)
People’s fucking speech patterns are being affected by big brother and they are genuinely just ok with it. I don’t know how to explain to someone that changing the way you talk changes the way you think and you are letting corpos do that to you. AND THEN THEY GO AND DEFEND IT.
It feels infantile and childish to me when grown ass adults use cutie wootie wordy cursies to get around speaking like humans.
I guess I understand doing it around children, but I also think children swearing is hilarious, so…
Yeah, there’s nothing quite like the look on the face of a staunchly conservative bigot who’s just been called a racist cunt by a based 8yo kid 😄
Just use curse around children and explain how society handles curse words so they can learn.
I probably swear less since having kids and use more non-swearing expletives (“flipping heck”, “crikey” etc.) in real life speech. Some of that inevitably bleeds into how I write online even though it’s not directed at kids, just because language is habit-forming.
But I really, really hate the “f–k” thing. Either swear or don’t. Swearing like you’re trying to get one over on teacher is weird.
Are adults not allowed to be childish and to like cute things? The older I get the more strength I’m finding to stand by my own childishness.
Sure, and the rest of us are allowed to find that fucking cringe.
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Who cares if they even are, who the fuck are you to prevent them from speaking how they want to
I didn’t prevent anyone from sounding stupid.
I’ll have to admit it doesn’t sound great and fair, I assumed you were actively against people saying this like some other in the comments
I’m not against it per se, although I’m against most forms of censorship to appease religious or political pressures. I tend to assume people who self censor swear words are religious or dumb though.
Or just because you’re around kids
You’re more than welcome to say fork or frell or frack or feth or whatever you want. I LOVE a good “forking shirtballs”
Just understand that if you start typing “f*ck” then people, self included, will assume you are a moron who thinks this is tiktok and you need to keep all your content monetized. Well, some of us are olds and will think you are a moron who doesn’t realize that gets you extra banned on gamefaqs. But most people will assume the tiktok and monetization thing.
i have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes, on this Monday to Friday plane!!!
“You see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!”
Yippie ka yay Mr falcon.
TV edit lines do create some of the best comedic lines.
Also the scene from Blazing Saddles where they are eating beans and just stand up and sit down silently for a few minutes because the censors banned fart noises.
Fething admech neutering the noosphere
extra banned on gamefaqs
i am 12 and what is this?
No, fuck that.
Either stop self-censoring or don’t structure your comments and sentences to use the word. This half-assed censoring is the lazy coward’s way out
thats forking bullshirt
Wait why can’t I say fork?
first sign of [spoiler]. you can’t even say fuck as you wish.
Don’t self-censor the way you want to! Self-censor the way I tell you to!
imo dont self-censor at all… either swear or don’t, but don’t “ohhh can’t say the naughty words”
do what you want, but it’s fucking annoying to read
This
No, fuck you.
Fork you f**king f-word!
Get farked
Frak this Shazbat.
Our problem is not with the way people want to say things—its the necessity to do so due to censorship by corporations in an effort to cleanse everything for advertisers.
Bigtime this.
Ok yea I’m sometimes guilty of this, but in a more joking kinda way usually
Except when you’re posting someone else’s content that the creator clearly intended to have a cussword, e.g. a comic, and either you or where you got it from censored it for “the algorithm”. That shit is annoying AF
The fucking problem with fucking self censorship, is it fucking often comes from people fucking compling with fucking corporate media fucking algorithmic censorship. Then internalizing the fucking limits of online spaces, it’s a fucking sinister infiltration of the human fucking mind, and is driving a fucking shift to the fucking alt-right. Also you can say fuck on the Internet.
Also you can say fuck on the Internet.
Gee, thanks. That’s totally good to know since it’s my first day here and all! 👍
The … problem with … self censorship … is driving a fucking shift to the fucking alt-right
Oh, the fuck it is. See? I wanted to use the word “fuck” that time, and I chose to - I don’t always, and that is my prerogative. Shouldn’t have to worry about self-un-censoring my style of speaking to keep a bunch of internet edgelords from getting their panties in a wad because I didn’t say the swear.
I’m just curious but is your post about saying fuck or shit or is it more about self censorship in terms of vocab made up by tiktok, like unalive or pewpew? I think there’s a lot of confusion about whether youre talking about normal cursewords or tiktok brain.
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I think it kinda sucks, because I hate self censorship and the mechanisms that lead it it
If you want to do it for religious or moral reasons, I don’t really care. You do you. I just don’t want you censoring yourself for ad friendliness
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People should be allowed to do what’s in their comfort zone without fear of reprisal. But I’m still going to believe you’re a child if you can’t even curse in writing
Way to undercut your own message.
The juxtaposition allowed my point to be made more strikingly, in my opinion
It’s not “striking”, it’s antithetical.
No, it’s creative phrasing. You’re still allowed to avoid cursing, no one’s going to come for you. But you’ll still look like a silly billy.
Because writing fuck is the ultimate sign of maturity. I guess I’m less childish than I thought I was.
No it has no bearing on maturity, but not being allowed to write fuck is a sign of being childish.
We’re not talking about not being allowed. We’re talking about choosing not to. In my bubble, using curse words is considered edgelord and therefore childish. I don’t mind being childish. I do curse, but I really don’t see it as a sign of maturity.
As soon as some does it, every comment’s like a three year old yelling, “You don’t like curse words. Here’s all the curse words I know!”
I assure you, I can curse better than a three year old.
Gotta keep the average up!
I don’t care if people censor their swears, my problem is the word substitutions making whatever they’re saying nigh unreadable like “Unalive”, “grape”, “PDF file”.
PDF file?
Edit: oh wait. I had to say it out loud. Pedophile.
Peter File.
Seems easy to read and understand to me
Lots of people don’t like to swear in person, or will follow it with something like ‘oops, did I say that out loud’.
I’ve never understood being upset when people self-censor online too. How does someone else not swearing effect you?
I don’t care about people “not swearing”.
Writing f*ck is swearing, just extra stupid.
It doesn’t affect me. That being said “policing” is a hyperbole. Obviously no one is forcing people to swear, they are just giving them shit when they censor themselves. Those people can still choose to censor themselves even when someone tells them it’s ok to swear.
It’s no more policing than OP ‘policing’ people to not ‘police’ him.
People have opinions. You can’t request others to not have their opinions if you’re going to share yours.
People have opinions. You can’t request others to not have their opinions if you’re going to share yours.
Yes and no… Everyone has an opinion, but it’s not always appropriate to share those opinions, especially if you’re changing the topic at hand to do so.
If we’re discussing ‘some topic’™ and I swear, but censor a couple letters; that would not be the time to change gear and discuss my personal use of censoring. You could have a separate discussion about it at a different time, as we are doing now; but it’s not really appropriate to stop the previous discussion about ‘some topic’ to talk about my censoring instead. That comes off as avoiding the subject imo.
The reason behind self censoring is what people are responding to, and how people do it shows the cause.
The most common reason for people to self censor by hiding a letter or two is to get past world filters imposed by multibillion dollar industries. Chat in games, social media platforms, and other places have draconian rules that people work around and thn drag those habits to other places where it isn’t necessary to remind everyone that billion dollar companies are ruining the internet. It used to be kind of funny when it was one or two companies addressing actual toxic behavior, but not people are censoring terms like rape when discussing it as a social problem that needs to be addressed.
If someone is thinking “What a fucking moron.” there are many ways to self censor.
“What a moron.” Self censoring by not using the word at all is perfectly fine.
“What a f*cking moron.” looks like someone is trying to say something hut is scared of a filter from the word police.
“Trmp is a fcking moron.” is like someone whispering about someone because they are afraid of being heard. Yes, I’ve started to see names getting the same treatment because of whatever stupid reason.
Sure, they can do whatever they want but I’m going to judge them for it.
F*ck off
(You can’t get upset, I didn’t “swear”)
Real ones say removed (you tried to say bitch on .ml)
