• fubo@lemmy.world
    60·
    2 years ago

    Authoritarians are incapable of healthy consensual sexual relations.

    They can’t just talk and hug and kiss and play with someone with mutual desire and satisfaction.

    It always has to be control and rape, or the lust/guilt/rage cycle of the serial killer, or baby-trapping, or some kind of neurotic bullshit.

    • Tedesche@lemmy.worldEnglish
      18·
      2 years ago

      or some kind of neurotic bullshit.

      Minor correction from a mental health professional here: in a classical sense, neurosis has very little to do with authoritarianism. If you’re referring to the OCEAN personality scale of neuroticism, then there might be some relation, because that has to do with a tendency towards negative emotions, but when most people refer to neurotic behavior, they’re referring to it in the classical Freudian sense, which is more about self-destructive anxiety and depression.

    • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldBannedEnglish
      11·
      2 years ago

      If a Republican says it, they are talking about themselves, if a Democrat says it, they are talking about Republicans.

  • Used/Denied@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    2 years ago

    They use pedo as a smear against their opponents when they are actually the real pedos. What a surprise.

  • asteriskeverything@lemmy.world
    10·
    2 years ago

    All these words and people I don’t know. I had to Google “baked alaska person” and he is the right wing personality but based on my Google definition of based (fuck, am I old?) It seems like he is the one arguing against pedophilia, I am so confused.

    • Ragdoll X@lemmy.worldBannedOP
      6·
      2 years ago

      ‘based’ in this context usually means that something is commendable, admirable or cool. So yes, Baked Alaska is the only one arguing against pedophilia, while the others are praising Nick for defending it.

      • asteriskeverything@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 years ago

        Thank you!

        Ffs so they are arguing with eachother now… over pedophilia? I’m getting this right?! I hate this, and I know that the word grooming is soon going to lose all meaning like gaslighting did.

    • deft@ttrpg.network
      2·
      2 years ago

      Based was stolen from the black community too. It never ends with these people and their shit

  • quindraco@lemm.eeBanned
    8·
    2 years ago

    Am I missing something? Isn’t grooming definitionally not pedophilia? I know people will be apt to downvote this because they’ll inexplicably assume I’m defending grooming, but in seriousness, isn’t grooming defined as building a trusting relationship with a minor (without sexually abusing them) so that when they cease to be a minor they will instinctively consent to sex? I.e. don’t groomers, by definition, strictly have sex with adults?

    • Chetzemoka@kbin.social
      23·
      2 years ago

      No, you’re actually wrong on this account. Grooming is definitionally the emotional manipulation that is performed specifically in order to get away with sexually abusing a child. One example of this kind of grooming involves doing illicit non-sexual activities with a child in order to seem like a “fun adult” who “let’s them get away with bad things” and to get the child to practice “keeping this our secret” so that when the direct sexual abuse starts, the child is already in the habit of hiding illicit activity from other adults.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_grooming

      • SoylentBlake@lemm.ee
        2·
        2 years ago

        *puke

        Premeditated as this suggests is so fucking disgusting

        The upcoming pedo paradox, holy fuck I’m glad I’m not in a position to have to weigh in on that. I use that as my example that sometimes life gives you agency, and therefore a responsibility to act, but only gives you bad choices.

        Future pedo dilemma

        1. Do nothing, risk pedo offending or reoffending
        2. Society gives the pedo a lifelike sex robot…at their preferred age (where that otherwise would better be strictly illegal) thus curbing and satisting their worst drives.

        Both answers are terrible. But assume yr a judge, which one sucks least? If they haven’t offended do we show compassion? Do we only help them curb their desires after we know they’ll actually do it? That person would NEED it the most, but then it’d be like we are rewarding them.

        What do ya do?

        I’m of the mind that if they’ve violated someone they should be chemically castrated.

        • notacat@mander.xyz
          4·
          2 years ago

          Yes to showing compassion to non offending pedophiles who do not act on it or argue for it. And then look at studies or conduct studies to determine what works to prevent someone from acting on it and then do that.

    • Anamnesis@lemmy.world
      20·
      2 years ago

      Afaik refraining from abusing them isn’t part of the definition. Anybody cozying up to a minor with the ultimate goal of having sex with them is grooming, whether or not they wait until they’re of age.

    • keeb420@kbin.social
      11·
      2 years ago

      That can be one aspect of grooming. But there’s plenty of people grooming kids for abuse much sooner than when they turn 18.

    • bane_killgrind@kbin.social
      8·
      2 years ago

      I think the question of when the victimization happens is moot because it’s started as soon as the child is manipulated.

      If I con you into signing your house over to me three years from now, I’m not conning from the future the con is now.

    • DigitalTraveler42@lemm.ee
      31·
      2 years ago

      All the calls of pedo are coming from inside of the “Right wing house”, the Left isn’t accusing anybody of grooming, however we definitely should be with the amount of priests, pastors, coaches, and cops who get caught molesting kids.

      It’s by design though, the Right wants to lower the age of consent, and they are using terms like “groomer” heavily against liberals and LGBTQ folks, because they want a justification to exterminate them once they get the camps going.

    • morphballganon@lemmy.worldBanned
      14·
      2 years ago

      Don’t worry about he-said-she-said. Look at what people are actually doing.

      You’ll see that conservatives are usually the ones doing “bad” things, and projecting to get out of the spotlight.