- cross-posted to:
- workreform@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- workreform@lemmy.world
Men ages 23 to 30 are discovering that a bachelor’s degree doesn’t offer the same protection from unemployment that it used to.
Amid a wider slowdown in hiring, the unemployment rate for men ages 23 to 30 with bachelor’s degrees has jumped in recent months to 6% — compared with 3.5% for young women with the same level of education, according to data analyzed by NBC News.
Now, young men with bachelor’s degrees are slightly likelier to be unemployed than young men with just high school diplomas, the analysis found. That’s a recent reversal after decades when young men with bachelor’s degrees had an advantage in the labor market, economists said.
Young women haven’t experienced the same trend; they are still significantly likelier to be employed if they have bachelor’s degrees.
Young women haven’t experienced the same trend; they are still significantly likelier to be employed if they have bachelor’s degrees.
A sure as the sun will rise, this will be interpreted by the usual folks to mean that reverse gender discrimination is rampant and must be stamped out as part of anti-woke/dei.
young men with bachelor’s degrees are slightly likelier to be unemployed than young men with just high school diplomas
This, however, will be touted as a huge success and sign of the effectiveness of this administration.
“Young men are struggling to identify class-based oppression due to decades of educational abuse.”
Are you implying young women are employed because they have identified class-based oppression?
Nope
Then how is that relevant to the OP?
People in general are uneducated about class dynamics and the reasons behind employment relations and unemployment. This means that, in particular, young men see statistics like this and come to incel conclusions.
These class dynamics are obscured intentionally by articles like this.
Where are you seeing people coming to “incel conclusions?” ITT?
I haven’t, and didn’t imply such. It’s a general observation about how the statistics referenced exist in a poisoned public discourse.
When I asked how your first response was relevant, you replied that “young men see statistics like this and come to incel conclusions.” If you aren’t actually seeing people come to that conclusion then your comments weren’t relevant.
Many young men can’t find work.
No person in the working class making the median wage can afford a minimum wage lifestyle in any state in the USA.
These are not signs of a healthy society.
I am in this article and I don’t like it.
Mechanical Engineer, graduated a few years ago. Slightly above this age band due to mental health struggles in my 20s. Four years of internships + undergrad research during school. One year, three months of unsteady, career-relevant contract work since then.
Moved from Bumfuck Midwest to a city with plenty of aerospace gigs but can’t even get an interview at the grocery store. I’m lucky that my parents and state aid have covered me thus far, have gotten wildly higher-quality mental/physical care here. Behaviourally I’m better than ever but chucking resumes into the void is wearing me down and I’m backsliding on my executive functioning progress.
Employment or a Master’s/PhD in Sweden/Germany/EU in general is preferable to the American defense industry but that’s a tall and expensive hill to climb (if anyone wants to assist please DM 🙃) and I’m nearly out of time before being faced with moving back home.
I’m tired, boss.
Have you looked in the public sector? The pay isn’t as good, but it usually means much better benefits, work/life balance, PTO, and (up until this year maybe) job stability.
Worst case, if you don’t like it, you could move somewhere else after you get some experience to put on your resume.
Just today I was made aware of an open position for a high school math teacher that I’m finding myself surprisingly keen on. It is a private/charter school which I’m generally ideologically opposed to but in this case it’s geared towards sending underserved children to university.
I was that child, only I received virtually zero support from teachers and made a shitton of mistakes trying to figure out university and adulting with neurodivergence. Helping to prepare guide and inspire the next generation actually sounds incredibly fulfilling.
Without doxxing myself, I moved to the public sector about ten years ago or so, and I will never work for a for-profit enterprise again for the rest of my life, if I can help it. A job is a job, but it’s just SO MUCH LESS soul-crushing when you’re not part of the capitalist rot.
I can’t speak to private schools though… But that sounds fulfilling.
Yeah the private school thing is the only point of contention. I can’t decide whether their willingness to hire non-education degrees is a good or bad thing. I’m reasonably confident in my ability to teach (math especially) but definitely lack pedagogy training. I’m taking their willingness to support my certification as a good sign, just concerned about the meantime.
That said, when my options are teaching math to high schoolers or defense sector…pretty easy choice.
I have an associate’s and two bachelor’s degrees. I get a, “We’ll be in touch,” from most prospective employers. The others I just don’t hear back.
An associates, bachelor’s, and master’s here. I’ve been rejected for being “underqualified” for jobs with no stated or practical education requirement. I just got a job making a bit above 1/3 of what I was making when I was termed seven months ago. I’m incredibly overqualified and I only got it because I was third choice and two PhDs ahead of me backed out after being offered it. The job is just above entry level and has a requirement of an associates or high school and 2 years experience.
It’s not you, the job market is just insane.
I’ve been told I was “too educated” for one job. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️




