• Typhoon@lemmy.ca
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    I can’t understand how in this political climate the Liberals think it’s a good idea to open our private data up to the US.

    “Elbows up”? Bullshit.

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      We (collectively) gave them a chance. They’ve proven unable to keep promises or work for the best interest of all Canadians in good faith. The time to start prepping to beat them is now.

      My MNA did not respond to my letter on C-2almost two months ago.

      I’m going to work to make sure he’s not re-elected.

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        It hasn’t even been a year!!! Sheesh!

        Edit: I can’t believe we’re here already. At a point where we already want a new government, I mean. But I warned people during the elections that they were going to be disappointed after voting liberal.

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            Quote true but at least they would not be passing all these draconian laws taking all our rights away.

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              Of course, but they would never be elected. I would 100% vote for NDP if they had a glimmer of chance, they did so bad their party almost disappeared.

              It was a vote against the conservatives, who would cause direct harm to our independence and marginalized communities.

              What we have here is a different kind of evil. Neither evils are acceptable, but it is a quantifiably lesser evil. We, as the people, have to twist their arms to make them do our bidding.

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                That is how I voted hoping liberals might be less evil. I just wonder now if there is any differences between these 2 evils anymore.

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                That’s just stupid. If everybody simply thinks that, of course it’ll never happen. We have to change this mentality.

                Also, I honestly think a minority conservative government with a strong NDP with whom the Liberals would’ve had to work with would’ve been a better outcome than this.

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                  We need to get rid of FPTP, which the liberals promised to do years ago.

                  The NDP might get rid of FPTP, but we were not guaranteed a strong NDP this election, so we may have simply ended up with a CON / LIB government had we voted for NDP in greater numbers.

                  We should chat about this over Matrix if you’re willing :) I think both viewpoints are valid, it’s really just a question of risk to reward.

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            They would still have been better than wherever the fuck we have right now. They wouldn’t have voted to force the return to work of the Air Canada employees for one.

            They would also have put pressure on provincial governments to improve public healthcare services instead of letting them fuck over the system to push for private services. Etc.

            They would’ve been so much better. Even if they are a mess.

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              …how would they have won is my question.

              There was near 0% probability of them winning, and almost 50% probability of the cons winning.

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                Well if the left in this country could stop nitpicking and waiting for the perfect candidate / party to show up and instead give them a chance for once…

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          Well most Canadians don’t want a new government and are happy with Carney. Us here just see the trend signs early and where they’re gonna lead ahead of time.

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            Really?? Canadians are happy with him? That’s not the vibe I’m getting. Even my parents who are hard core liberals are disappointed.

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              The last approval I saw which was a week or two ago was over 50 percent. Don’t know how it’s moved since.

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        Yeah, basically. We did the lesser evil given the scenario at that point in time. Now we have to position the alternative to be in a viable state by the election. Failing that, it’ll be the lesser evil again.

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          Maybe I’m nuts but far as I am concerned Carney is not any different than rump at this point. The only difference I see between liberal and conservative now is the conservatives admit they want fascist shit. Carney and gang a slinking around pretending.

          I will never vote liberal again in my life. The trust has been broken.

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            Well they’re similar in some regards and different in others. Apart from the cons being actively harmful towards various marginalized groups, here’s how they might differ in handling this labour dispute. In the lib case, we have them going through the legal framework with the union and Air Canada, and they wanted force arbitration, which while not as good as the union could get would have likely produced meaningful improvements to the workers’ contract. A con like PP would have likely said that the union has been infiltrated by radical woke left lunatics and no longer serves the interests of the workers. He would have then singled out these workers as unreasonable and bad, and gone on to say how they are harming the rest of the good workers with their strike. Then he’d go hard on them in various ways. For example by emergency amending labour law to make it easy to bust the union, as well as others in the future, and to make it more difficult to organize in the first place. If he were extra nasty, he could have picked up some of the pro-Palestine messages said by various CUPE leaders and declare it/them supporters of terrorism or some shit like that and sanction them from that avenue as well. With this in mind, consider that the state can do a lot more to make life difficult for workers and while the libs aren’t doing nearly enough to avoid us descending into fascism, the cons under someone like PP won’t be afraid to use their power to increase labour exploitation at behest of their donors. Either way we need a strong, unapologetically worker-focused NDP but the libs aren’t nearly anti-worker as the PP cons would likely be.

      • setVeryLoud(true);@lemmy.caOP
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        Can you provide us with a template and list of addresses to mail these grievances to? I’d like to mail my MNA as well.

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    I’m trying to think of that saying about opening or closing the barn door but can’t remember it. In either case, the gist is they’ve already been surveilling us all along so this news means very little.