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Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.
Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.
“I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights” - Charlie Kirk, 2023
Finally a good guy with a gun
I get the attempt at dark humor but honestly, damn, for me, that’s a no.
This is just my perspective, and I never wish harm or suffering on another living being, but if what/who you are and advocate for causes these things and you’re too stupid or bribed to see it and continue being you… Then, for the greater good, good riddance
Don’t get me wrong, he got what he advocated for, I’m certainly not crying or really feeling anything about his death but huh, I guess dude FAFO’ed. I just don’t find the “good guy with a gun” comment appropriate here that’s all even if a small sliver of me goes “yeah, kinda, yeah” because more than likely that guy is very much not a good guy, probably very mentally ill.
Just my thoughts.
From the bits I saw of the alleged shooter getting arrested, to me it looks like the guy was planning on getting caught. Balding old white men who can shoot like that don’t strike me as the type who run away.
EDIT: Waiting for confirmation on whether the actual suspect is caught or not.
Last I saw the shooter is still free, the person originally arrested is not involved and has been released.
Hmm. I guess we’ll wait and see.
per AP:
Person taken into custody after Charlie Kirk was shot in Utah is not believed to be shooting suspect, AP source says
A statement released by the university said a “single shot was fired on campus toward a visiting speaker. Police are investigating now, suspect in custody.” A university spokeswoman later told the New York Times that police had determined the person detained earlier was not the shooter, and that no suspect was currently in custody.
Looks like the guy initially arrested turned out to not be involved (maybe just another guy with a high powered rifle? Don’t know, must make things hard in the US). Or have they since arrested someone else?
Probably one of those “open carry” dipshits, hanging around to show off his gun, and when someone gets shot, he’s the first guy they focus on, giving the real shooter a head start on his escape. Nice job being a witless accomplice.
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I completely understand, and I actually wish that I could share your perspective. Unfortunately for my “empathy for all” perspective, I couldn’t help but smile when I read that he got shot. Because my mind directly went to the “oh, this is gonna alleviate so much suffering” POV
My reaction:
“Wait, who got shot? Really? Wow. So, what’s for dinner?”
I’m adding FAFOed to my lexicon
I haven’t read about, and am not interested in the shooter.
My opinion is only that the world is better off without Charlie Kirk, nothing else at this point.
I don’t know. This is only going to cause MAGA to ramp up their fascism, and give them a better excuse to enact further violence on us, the citizens.
wHo CoUlD hAvE sEeN tHiS cOmInG?!?!
The ramp up was always going to happen anyway. Everyone knows that appeasement doesn’t work on Nazis.
I can even see an argument in which he was killed by his own as a sacrificial lamb as there is no bottom in the depths of their depravity.
They didn’t need this. They were going to do it regardless. They might use this as an excuse, sure, but it wont’ be the reason.
Fascist do not “need” a reason to remove rights from people.
They need exactly zero excuse other than brown people existing to ramp up their fascism and enact violence on Americans.
Any politician that completely supports Trump is fair game at this point. Things will not return to normal by talking. If you dont wanna live in a dictatorship wake the fuck up. If you live in the US (i luckily dont) then learn how to use a gun, because its gonna get much much worse than the way it is right now.
Yes, as long as people are willing to resort to murder in support of their ideology.
I just have to ask, is it because another human being was shot or were you one of the people celebrating the death of Osama bin Laden?
Humor?
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Trump ally Charlie Kirk suggests children should watch public executions
He ended up being the one being executed publicly
Reminder that this is Kirk’s stance on guns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVc9l6pjxtI
Unfettered 2A is worth the gun deaths according to Charlie Idiot here.
ETA: holy shit, saw a clip and damn, that dude is dead.
Statistics are always nice and vague until you become one of them.
One death is a tragedy, Charlie Kirk’s is a statistic
More like “hilarious”, especially since he was literally doing his “we must accept shootings for the 2A” shtick. Literally would be something written in a dark comedy.
Reminds me of a joke.
Back during the 1950s, a USSR elementary school is discussing the definition of different words. The teacher asks “who can say what catastrophe means?” Dmitri raises his hand, “if my mother dropped her groceries on the way home, that would be a catastrophe.” Teacher: “not quite, that would be a misfortune, it wouldn’t be a catastrophe.” Svetlana raises her hand and says “if a plane were to crash, that would be a catastrophe.” Teacher: “not exactly, that would certainly be a tragedy but not a catastrophe. Then Sasha raises his hand, “if our great comrade Stalin died, that would be a catastrophe.” Teacher: “very good! That would indeed be a catastrophe. How did you know that was correct?” Sasha: “well, it wouldn’t be a misfortune, it wouldn’t be a tragedy…”
Haha, I’ve heard this same joke before but with Ian Paisley, the unionist leader in Northern Ireland.
“How did you know that that would be a tragedy, if my plane were to crash?”
“Well it wouldn’t be a great loss, and it definitely wouldn’t be an accident.”
It’s a good one.
Oh, I’d say it’s clearly more significant than a statistic. Definitely not a tragedy though.
A quote that hits like a purposeful steel toe boot obliterating unprotected genitals.
Ironically this is exactly what the 2A was built for. To off tyrants.
Unlimited AR-15s and Glocks to every minority.
Unlimited AR-15s and Glocks to every minority.
This is unironically the same idea that started the Black Panthers. People noticed that peaceful unarmed protests were violently busted by the cops… But peaceful heavily armed protests were politely watched from across the street. So they started arming the people who were protesting, and those people were largely minorities.
Then logically one could infer that they would rather die than prevent the senseless violence.
EDIT: I’m not advocating for anyone’s death or praising what occurred. I just wanted to point to how moronic his stance was. Why would anyone say any death from gun violence is okay?
I’m guessing it’s more like they think it won’t happen to them. A lot right wingers are very shortsighted. They lack the imagination or empathy that if something happens to someone else, it can also happen to them.
We don’t know the politics of the shooter so far, but one thing the right seems to not understand is they have an absurdly low threshold for violence.
A right winger will assault if not kill someone for the most minor of “infractions” if they have a reason at all. Most of the time it’s just existing in a way they don’t like or “Walking while black”. They are bloodthirsty and just want to kill everyone who isn’t like them.
The left also has a threshold it’s just a lot higher. Some may even say too high, but the left doesn’t kill someone over the clothes they wear or even being directly insulted and threatened.
Most of the “violence” from the left is fucking property damage, but pushed far enough the left can and will defend themselves and their communities.
The key difference I’ve noticed between left wing vs right wing political discourse is that left wing politicians, pundits, and commentators very rarely rile up their base or audience with violent rhetoric, but right wingers do.
It would seem he put his beliefs to the test here and it looks awfully permanent too.
Give me liberty or give me death. Except some don’t want liberty either…
I wonder if his stance on that position changed at all in the 0.5 seconds between the hit and loss of consciousness.
I don’t imagine that would be enough time for someone to even process the various stimuli enough to realize that what just happened was a gunshot, tbh, let alone consider the implications of that.
Assuming the time wasn’t an exaggeration that is, I’m fairly squeamish so I don’t think I’ll be watching that video to see how long it really was.
It is pretty graphic so avoid if you’re not comfortable seeing that type of content. Otherwise, your guess is very accurate. It looked like he had maybe a half second of consciousness before lights out, but it was spent in a surprise that the mind did not comprehend.
“You will not get gun deaths to zero. You can significantly reduce them…by having more fathers in the home and more armed guards in front of schools.”
I fucking burst out laughing. This guy was a walking meme.
I’m not going to lose sleep over it.
Internet medical expert here.
Arteries spray, so must have hit a vein. That is survivable if you get fast medical attention to stop the bleeding. It’s dicey, but since it’s already been over an hour, he either has enough blood left at this point or he doesn’t.
Edit: nevermind
He’s dead. Trump confirmed it.
Odd place for a Babylon 5 reference, especially a Vorlon.
He lost consciousness instantly, indicating significant loss of blood pressure towards the brain, i.e., an artery was hit.
Secondly, not just hit but completely severed, explaining the massive non-spraying blood loss; similar to why a garden hose without the nozzle just flows. Only if it were a small enough puncture it would spray.
It has now been officially confirmed that he is in fact dead.
I just saw the clip too. Kirk fully sucked but I don’t know how you can watch that video and not see a fellow human dying
It is absolutely something to meditate on, that’s for sure.
“god given rights” haha. Fucking clownery.
Trump ordered flags at half mast until Sunday. So this piece of shit got what he quite literally asked for and it’s a national tragedy, but innocent children killed in schools on a weekly basis get “nothing we can do about it, thoughts an prayers 🤷♂️.” Fucking clownshow.
My non-mod opinion on this:
Trump is posting Kirk is dead.
Not going to celebrate, just noting:
“I can’t stand the word ‘empathy’, I think it’s a made up New Age term.” - Charlie Kirk
He was sitting at what he calls the “prove me wrong” table, answering questions about gun violence.
I think someone managed it.
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Oh, so this is the school shooting that Conservatives suddenly give two shits about?
There’s so many layers of irony to this event. You can’t make this shit up.
A man, who made a career downplaying gun violence and advocating against empathy for its victims, was shot while giving a talk about his favorite topic under a tent that said “Prove me wrong”, on a college campus in a state that just lifted its ban on weapons on college campuses. His own quotes can be endlessly used to shut down any outrage at his ironic demise.
Charlie Kirk’s final moments were spent being definitively and completely proven wrong.
If this wasn’t going to used as an excuse to ban Trans people from owning firearms and for further violence against the opposition, it would be hilarious.
Play Nazi games, win Nazi prizes.
