• ieatpwns@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    But if I say billionaires should pay more taxes or be euthanized I’m put on a list

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    Why the fuck are there still whales there and why are the corpos allowed to threaten death if these whales. They wanted to sell them to china (where they most likely will be further abused), now if they can’t get money they’ll kill them?

    C’mon Ottawa, force them to rehabilitate and release them, even if it kills the park.

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        AFAIK there are rarely whales born in captivity and nearly all were stolen from their pods and thrown into a swimming pool.

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        Uhhhh, how about try? If the options are to euthanize them or give them a fighting chance in the wild, they should just release them near or around another pod. The hubris of man to think animals can’t survive without them. They aren’t domesticated. If they’re hungry and see a fish swim by they’d be like “where’s the hairless ape’s hand to feed me?”.

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          It’s not the hubris of man. It’s scientific research over decades and decades that has shown many captive animals are unable to survive without humans. This isn’t just some hippy or business person making uninformed assumptions about how animals work. Animals who have never been taught how to hunt on their own, or how to communicate with others of their species, will slowly die of starvation. It happens all the time when animals are let loose in the wild with no skills.

          If you don’t believe me, go watch Naked and Afraid. Nearly every episode is about how these adult humans who have a production team ensuring their safety can’t catch any food and get sick from bad water and mostly starve for the entire duration of the challenge. That’s what captive animals are like. They have grown up with nobody to teach them anything useful. The only people who do well on the show are those who have had years of training in how to survive in the wild.

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            Hey, man! What do you have against sharks? They need food too. Euthanize them and OSHA and 9 other agencies will have a say in how the carcasses are disposed of “safely”.

            I do agree with you though, I wish the options weren’t so binary.

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    That’s a great reason not to raise wild animals in captivity.

    They’ll be held as hostages by corpo scum.

    “Give me money, or I’ll kill 30 whales. Ahahahah! They’re mine, and I can do whatever I want! AHAHAAHAH! Hail HR! Hail HR!”

    That’s not fiction. That’s the story.

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    4 months ago

    Me reading headline: I fuckin bet it is Marineland. Me reading the first paragraph of the article: I fucking knew it! Fucking marineland.

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    Canada or Ontario should liberate the whales and take over the property for the necessary property and income to do so.

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      Yeah and he’s also dead. Used to smuggle illegal Belugas to breed and imprison them at Marineland. He’s already in hell.

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    The government should seize the property and the assets of the owners and shareholders and anyone related to the owners to pay for this. You don’t end up here by accident.

    But they’ll just get their way and retire wealthy.

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      Apparently it costs 2 million per month to keep the belugas alive. Not sure I would want the government to be covering that cost. The issue is more complex than the headline but at the end of the day the corporation did not manage their money and now are in urgent need however, they also wanted to sell the animals to a group in China and the Feds blocked the sale. These animals were born in captivity so it’s hard to say if they would survive if released. It’s not a great situation.

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        They won’t survive in the wild and the China option is inhumane.

        The best option currently is to put them down but it’s abhorrent that it’s even possible to be in this situation.

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    Euthanize, BUT NOT RELEASE, right??

    Narcissism / machiavellianism / sociopathy-psychopathy / nihilism / SADISM / and systemic-dishonesty

    … dimensions-of-human-evil in their position, at least.

    The ideological displacing-considered-reasoning dimension may be on-display, too…

    ( they’re running-out of dimensions-of-human-evil to exercise!

    & the Western-psychology’s “dark triad” is only a small subset of these dimensions.

    Obviously, the psychology-profession’ll never accept these dimensions as valid, because it wasn’t them who authorized, or noticed, them.

    Profession-narcissism is a very real force in our world )


    Perhaps the executives of that operation are identifying that humankind ought murder the innocent ( the whales ) while catering-to the psychopaths ( the executives )?

    Are we obedient to that directive?

    XOR do we intentionally-ditch the dishonest-framing & force right framing, & THEN decide?

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  • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Everyone is big mad about the whales. Meanwhile, there’s a whole lot of other animals that aren’t famous being fucked with, and humans, and a pretty compelling case that the costs of caring for damn belugas is actually pretty burdensome.

    It’s not bad people care about show whales. It’s bad that it’s vastly disproportionate.

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      It is proportionate — to their size

      (In all seriousness, it’s a lot easier to make suitable living quarters for most other animals. If you can’t make suitable living quarters, it’s unethical, full stop. Yes I’m including factory farm meat in that)

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        I don’t actually disagree with that, which is why “don’t euthanise them but also don’t do anything with them” isn’t being accepted by the company as an answer. I only know MarineLand from the ads, but any habitat multiple whales can at least sort of live in will be no joke.