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    "Had a stance’ lol she’s voluntarily complicit in a fucking genocide just like the rest of the corporate dems, you’re just upset that you weren’t allowed to trade palestinian lives for your own comfort and security

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      you’re just upset that you weren’t allowed to trade palestinian lives for your own comfort and security

      Is that why I’m upset? Good thing she lost and palestinian lives are perfectly fine now.

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        Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you. Harris could have won if she’d been willing to disavow Israel’s genocidal bullshit and believably commit to policy changes that would actually help the working class and reign in billionaires, but she said plainly that nothing would change because that’s what her billionaire donors told her to say and she doesn’t give a shit about anything but getting paid.

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          Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you

          I like how you know me so well. Like I wasn’t at the Palestinian protests last week in London yelling at the Met police for arresting perfectly innocent protestors.

          I’ll leave it at this though single-issue voting is fucking stupid.

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            There were a whole lot more issues with her campaign than just her unwavering support for Israel, her explicit commitment to a wildly unpopular and unsustainable status quo and her baffling attempts to court conservatives clearly didn’t do her any favors. But even if that weren’t the case being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

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              being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

              Not when all the alternative was “more fucking genocide with a side of fascism”

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                So you’re fine with genocide as long as there are no consequences for you lol, standard liberal

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                  Ok, so what candidate besides Harris stood a chance at winning the election?

                  Or, let’s try some basic math! What’s worse, one genocide or two?

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                    Literally anybody could have won if spineless cowards like you had supported them, but you and countless others like you went with what you saw as the safe bet for saving your own ass and now you’re paying for it. It’s still just one genocide, the only difference is that you’re being affected. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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                  When did I say that? I live in fucking reality and could recognize that even though Harris sucked Trump was clearly going to be far worse for Gaza as well as everything else.

                  I’m sure you sleep well at night with your morals resulting in you not participating in a simple action that would have resulted in fewer deaths. Good job.

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                    You don’t have to say it, hypocrites don’t usually admit to being hypocrites, fucking duh. Dems are 100% pro-Israel, there would have been just as many palestinians dead, your only real concern is for yourself

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              being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

              I’ll ask again. How’s Trump doing on Palestine?

              And THAT is why single issue voting is for fucking losers.

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                Palestine is exactly as fucked as they would have been under Kamala Harris, recipient of 9 million dollars from fucking AIPAC. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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          You are detached from reality mate. Neither option would have helped the Palestinian people. So there were no realistic choices on the table that would have solved that issue.

          Instead, people got sold a bag of rhetoric and lies, like the ones you’re peddling, and we got the worst case scenario by a measurement so far removed from the other candidates that it has a likely real chance to end democracy as we know it it the US. Its already happening.

          So well done, you fucking nonce.

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            So you admit the Democrats fully support the genocide in Israel and yet you’re still busy criticising individual voters for the failures of your party? And then you accuse me of lying even though you just admitted I’m right, albeit in the most backhanded way possible. You’re a spineless morally bankrupt hypocrite. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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                If you’re still making excuses for the democrats at this point you never had morals and you never gave a shit about anyone but yourself, simple as

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                    That’s literally the only thing you or any of the other butthurt liberals responding to me here are doing, it’s all you can do because the alternative would be admitting you were wrong and none of you have the spine for that shit lol

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              you deserve Trump and worse.

              Says the dipshit who appears to have not voted in the most likely manner to prevent him from being in power because they were too busy crying about a single issue that dwarfs the situation we now find ourselves in.

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                You don’t have a clue how I voted and you don’t actually care, you’re just looking for any excuse you can find to discredit anyone who criticizes you for being a morally bankrupt hypocritical coward, which you are lol

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              None of the things you said are accurate or true.

              You’re doing what’s called a loaded question plus a lot of a strawman logical fallacies here so I’m disinclined to attempt to answer you in good faith when you’ve shown none :) .

              But hey, good luck with whatever the fuck it is you seem to have going on in your head. I hope you feel like a morally superior person while trump’s administration puts migrant families into concentration camps, kills Venezuelans by the boatload, disrupts the global stability of the world, threatens our neighbors with our military, deploys our military into our cities, and funds the largest gestapo organization in world history while he keeps supplying Israel with all the weapons they need to keep bombing the Palestinians.

              You really showed us. The people who apparently deserve trump because they voted for Kamala. lol.

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                Everything I said is entirely true, you’re just upset at being called out on your hypocrisy directly. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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            Trump won by appealing to his base, who do not give a shit about those things. Harris did the exact opposite, abandoned progressives and campaigned on the continuation of a wildly unpopular status quo and outreach to conservatives/“centrists” who she had no chance with anyway. She literally had campaign appearances with Liz fucking Cheney, I’d absolutely love to see what sort of mental gymnastics you can pull to justify that shit.

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              She literally had campaign appearances with Liz fucking Cheney

              Yeah, she got prominent conservatives to speak out publicly against Donald Trump. That’s not exactly a bad thing. Did it swing the election? No. Did it cause her to lose? No.

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                Lol right I’m sure you’re laughing right now and not seething at being called out for your amoral bullshit, totally believable

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                  You seem to think your opinion matters more than it does.

                  You’re mistaken, because your inability or unwillingness to understand nuance means everyone can safely ignore you.

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                    I’m right and you know it, there is no nuance to supporting a fucking genocide. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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                “Thirst for genocide” from someone still making excuses for corporate dems lol, you can keep accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being a bot/troll/russian but it isn’t going to make you any less complicit

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                    That’s literally the only thing you or any of the other butthurt liberals responding to me here are doing, it’s all you can do because the alternative would be admitting you were wrong and none of you have the spine for that shit lol

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        Harris has been the recipient of over 9 million dollars from AIPAC. Do you think AIPAC is a charity? You think they can’t figure out whether a politician they’ve donated to is doing what they want or not? Or is this just another case of “bad when the other team does it/fine when my team does it”?

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      Goddamn.

      I literally just started internetting today and you’ve already subjected me to the dumbest comment I’ll see all day.

      I mean I guess I can see it as glass half full. It’ll only get better for the rest of the day.

      Welcome to reality where politicians can’t just break international ties with a geographically strategic ally because a bunch of people want to ignore geopolitics and operate 100% off their feelings.

      By the way, how’s Trump looking on Palestine?

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        Palestine is exactly as fucked as they would have been under Kamala Harris, recipient of 9 million dollars from fucking AIPAC. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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        What else are they going to do? They sure as shit can’t prove me wrong lol