The whole point of
generative AIplagiarism laundering machines is to make it harder to tell you’re consuming a soulless regurgitation of legitimate talent.tbf, a lot of pop and generic stuff is incredibly soulless and it was made by people. One silver lining is that hopefully the artistic part will be more embraced in music because the driving force for a lot of it is money and not art. Not defending AI in any way though, fuck that bullshit to hell.
There’s a formula people like, so they just repeat stuff
I hate that AI is controlled by a few huge corporations and that it consumes ungodly amounts of resources. Otherwise I’d be completely fine with it. At least 90% of anything is shit anyway and everything humans create is built on what came before, so I think AI just mimics what we’ve been doing since forever. But as it is controlled by just a few assholes who burn the planet down even faster I am against it.
maybe it will force people to get more creative and experimental
not if they want to earn any money, I just make music for myself now tbh
I once did a remix competition. Not to win, just to have fun playing with samples and the discipline of having a time limit. I knew going in that what I was going to do had 0 chance of getting anywhere near the top.
The winning three entries were judged by the website, the artist, and 3 executives from the record label. And the winning 3 entries were all exactly the same.
They were all the same style of EDM (bear in mind, this was a poppy guitar song being remixed, so there was no particular driving factor towards that direction), they had similar bass lines & synth parts - both in terms of the riffs themselves and in terms of the sounds used. They all sped up and pitched up the vocal and chopped it in a very similar way. And they all had the exact same structure. You could literally play all three simultaneously (after timestretching by a couple of BPM to make them the same tempo) and the intro would be the same number of bars, the beat would come in at the same time, the vocals would come in at the same time, the dropdown would come in at the same time, the build-up would come in at the same time and lasted the same number of bars, they had the same bar of silence after the build-up, and then the drop did very similar things with the bass and all three went into half-time simultaneously.
There were hundreds of entries, and really what you had to do was make something that sounded like everything else. It was depressing, honestly.
Oof that’s super disheartening, I never really entered those contests because I feared it was the same. My music is pretty weird as it is I don’t really want to put it up against more ear friendly stuff lol. I feel like people are all watching the same youtube videos and getting the same tips or using the same tutorials and/or sample packs and projects or presets. DAWs are awesome in that they’ve made music making accessible to literally anyone but they’ve also made it easy to make a lot of music that sounds the same, I mean of course that was happening before computers as well, but it still take some effort to be a cover band.
I recommend it anyway. It’s always fun to play with someone else’s ideas. You end up writing stuff you otherwise wouldn’t. And there’s something to be said for “I’ve got x amount of time to finish this” due to external factors. Just don’t pay attention to the competition aspect and you’ll almost certainly find it rewarding.
I would like to hear more of that for real, stagnant ass music lately unless you just live in the underground
In my opinion that says more about Jazz than about LLMs trying to mimic real music.
It doesn’t say anything about LLMs, they just do lyrics, and they’re definitively shit, and you can tell right away.
Image generation models actually aren’t terrible at generating melodies, so for genres like Jazz and EDM they make surprisingly acceptable music.
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Listens to the same repetitive sample of light jazz for 30 hours, enjoying himself
“The AI has won”
Come back to it a week later. It sucks. Start looking for something more novel and organic
“Who is this Miles Davis guy? What’s a Dizzy Gillespie?”
Tastes original high quality art. Has a cathertic experience. Comes back to AI Slop one more time.
“Holy mother of God, this music is actual dog shit”
Listens to the same repetitive sample of light jazz for 30 hours, enjoying himself
“Hmmmm, human music. I like it.” - Jerry Smith of Rick & Morty
Once you realize all of modern Western music is simplified jazz with new timbre, it makes a lot more sense. (Someone come and fight me about how John Coltrane)
I asked my daddy for a guitar Oh, I begged and I plead I said I wanted to play the blues And he just nodded his head Daddy said when he was my age Boogie-Woogie was the thing Just take the blues, throw out your hip And add a little swing
[…]
Ha! I kept learnin’ all the powers my guitar had I made to go wakka wakka 'Till it was so good it was bad Just make a face And stomp that bass And make that rhythm bump This is just the blues But in a way that makes ya wanna shake your rump I can make you clap your hands I can make you get up and dance If you wanna shake your booty My friend, you gotta give the funk a chance
[…]
Metal! Pound your fist in the air! Metal! Bang your head full of hair! Its crunchy and its nasty Full of bad attitude Your parents’ll think you’re crazy Your neighbors’ll think you’re rude Believe it or not Its just the blues again You just add a little fuzz And turn your amp up to 10! Music has the power to change your life forever
Ay, wasn’t expecting Phineas and Ferb in here
I stopped using Spotify exactly for this reason. Plex it is.
Spotify is playing AI music? Or just the music recommendation algo?
I feel like Spotify went downhill when they fired all the playlist makers, it’s so ass for finding new music because the algo tries to keep you in a bubble.
That’s true, idk anything about Spotify’s history but I joined hoping it would help me find cool music and it really didn’t. I know my friend uses it for that and it works for him, I think though the music I’m starting with is too specific and narrow or smth (even though there’s several different genres)
I wish there was just some quiz thing where it plays 300 little clips and you rate how good they sound, and then it could iteratively refine the quiz and recommendations as you go on
Yeah it really sucks because they used to have people putting together the playlists and then I could just go into the playlist of songs I like and find other songs that are similar but different. There was enough drift on it but I could find new music easily.
Now the algorithm just keeps trying to redirect me the songs I already like/know. It’s a much tighter bubble than just sticking with a genre or even sub genre.
Spotify is playing AI music and they’re also inserting AI generated songs into playlists without informing the user. I was getting AI generated music in my blues and jazz playlists, and I didn’t even know until I reverse searched the artist.
I’m a fairly recent jazz convert, and there’s absolutely no way I would be able to tell the difference. None.
this is why i’ve switched to strictly listening to kasane teto songs
I only discover bands through KEXP, Tiny Desk, local shows and whoever is opening for my favorite artists, so I should be good. All the “related” and “recommendeds” of the world are dead to me. I’m keeping it in the family.
I like experimental electronic sound. There have been moments where I’m driving, hear a new beat, enjoy it…then realize I need to take my car to the mechanic.
Sure, AI can create music that I can’t tell is AI generated. But there is a difference between “enjoyable” and “good”. My concerns about AI have very little to do with the quality of content it can create. Even if eventually it can make “good” music it still sucks.
this is why i dont listen to music anymore…just alone with my dark, horrible, self loathing thoughts, and existential dread. id write a song about it except i have no innate musical talent whatsoever.
if only i had someone i could talk to, that would put my feelings into song, instantly, with virtually little to no cost to me…
…roh… my… god…
wow, this is disgusting.
and not OPs jazz i was looking for
