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- rfc3339@programming.dev
Some years ago in a chain of discussion the more typical simple pyramid representation of date formats was improved to incorporate every (big and) little detail of the various formats accurately.
The annotated regions of usage are debated however.
The first insight is that numbers themselves are ordered most to least significant, that’s why every numeric element is sloped top to bottom. This shows why dd.mm.yyyy is not well-ordered, even ignoring the time component.
Then, am/pm is actually its own segment of the time notation when it is used, and as the biggest is misplaced when put after time.
Put between date and time it is still inefficient, but at least placed in order (and is alphabetically sorted).
Another neat detail is the quirk of 12h time to call the first hour 12 instead of 00. This is represented by the lowest section of the hour bar spiking to be the widest.
One remaining inaccuracy is that the width of the bars does not match their encoded amount of information. It would be sensible to have the day be 5x wider than am/pm, and the (4 digit) years 2.6x as wide as the days, but alas that would be too impractical for such a well-designed infographic.
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I think that in some parts of Germany, viertel zwölf means 12:15, but in others it means 11:45. Just to keep things interesting!
I learned the latter near Frankfurt, 40 years ago, and the former in Eastern Germany this year.
I think those require a “vor” and “nach” respectively.
“viertel zwölf” seems to reliably mean 11:15 unless maybe it’s a casual shortening both sides are aware of. If you go to a random person and tell them viertel zwölf they probably won’t understand, but if they do they should think 11:15.
“viertel zwölf” (quarter twelve) = 11:15
“viertel vor zwölf” (quarter to twelve) = 11:45
“viertel nach zwölf” (quarter past twelve) = 12:15
No, these usages specifically don’t use “vor” and “nach”. Presumably idiomatic spoken German