After a period when President Trump seemed to be more inclined to the Ukrainian side, he now seems to be taking the side of Russia again. On board his plane the Air Force One he told reporters that Ukraine and Russia should stop fighting and that he wants to leave the situation in the largely Russia-occupied Donbas as he is.
And the British newspaper the Financial Times (FT) writes that the meeting between Trump and Zelensky at the White House went dramatically Friday. Trump is said to have urged Zelensky to accept the Russian conditions for ending the war and to give up the Donbas to Russia.
Based on sources, the newspaper reports that Trump warned that Russian President Putin will “destroy” Ukraine if the country does not cooperate.
Turn of Trump
A little over a month ago, Trump said Ukraine could win the war with the support of the European Union. Then he was remarkably positive about that. In a post on Truth Social, he stated that the country, with the help of the EU and NATO, can take back all territories occupied by Russia.
It seems that last Thursday’s phone conversation with Putin has changed his mind.
According to the FT and The Washington Post, the Russian president has made a new proposal whereby Ukraine will give up the Donetsk and Luhansk regions in exchange for small parts of Cherson and Zaporizha. Exactly that exchange would have been introduced to Zelensky on Friday.
Two sources told Reuters that they had the impression that Trump was influenced by Putin. Trump and Putin have agreed to meet in Budapest in a few weeks.
Screaming
Zelensky came to Washington on Friday in the hope of getting more weapons from the U.S., but according to insiders, the meeting degenerated into a screaming party, with Trump constantly cursing.
That this was not an incident turned out last night on board the Air Force One. Trump said the Donbas region - in southeastern Ukraine - should be divided “in the way that it is now.” “Negotiation is possible later,” he said. “Go home, stop fighting and stop killing people.”
The Donbas consists of the regions of Luhansk and Donetsk. Luhansk is almost entirely occupied by Russia, Donetsk about three quarters.
What Trump is asking of Ukraine:
Pete Hegseth’s tie during this meeting:
Trump is more scared than Zelensky
Putin puts on the pressure
Because Putin has irrefutable evidence of Trump fucking kids, committing treason, or something else he doesn’t want MAGA to see.
The treason has been out in the open for a while now. MAGAts don’t care.
Or maybe he told Trump he wouldn’t be his friend unless Trump sold out Ukraine.
There’s a reasonable chance that Trump sucks up to Putin not because of kompromat, but because he admires Putin and wants to be his pal.
Likely Putin has tapes made on the Epstein island.
It literally would not matter. Trump could go to each of his followers’ homes, fuck their wife and shoot their dog and they would thank Trump for the privilege
Given what we learned and his responses, I think he was partner with Epstein creating kompromats for Russians.
Mossad is Russian? TIL!
Maxwell’s father had quite Russia connections.
He did. But he was buried on (in?) Olive Mount.
Not sure where you are getting where he was buried, sounds line made up, but it doesn’t affect who he, Maxwell and trump worked with.
MAGA already knows those things and they don’t care
I think you underestimate the bubble many of these people have built for themselves to insulate themselves from inconvenient truths.
It’s not about MAGA, they would follow him into a volcano pit. It’s about him, his own self-image, his pride.
Considering Trump is clearly doing everything he possibly can to allow the release of the Epstein files, I would wager Putin has lots of evidence of him molesting and raping kids.
Or maybe it’s something else, like Putin pretending to get into a snit and saying “No iron fist in a rubber glove for you, Donnie, you’re not my friend anymore.”
Leverage points don’t all have to be coercive. Maybe there’s kompromat, maybe there’s been some weird kind of transference and Trump’s in love with his handler. Maybe he’s an aspiring dictator so he sucks up to other dictators. Or he’s so feeble-minded that he’s easily swayed by anyone who knows how to push his buttons.
You can say everything is a deep fake at this point so pictures won’t even do. We are so fucked, brave new world.
If you have the facts on your side, hammer the facts.
If you have the law on your side, hammer the law.
If you have neither the facts nor the law, hammer the table.
Just make sure you’re the last one that has called or talked with trump… He just follows the last opinion he heard SMH coward
His addled, decaying mind can barely remember one conversation, so what else could we realistically expect?
Trump just seems to repeat the thoughts of the last person he spoke to that actually got through to him somehow. Why Putin seems to be so good at doing that is anyone’s guess.
In any case, this will continue until he meets some European leaders again. I think the person who flipped him last time seems to have been King Charles?
But this all just shows it doesn’t even matter. As Orwell said:
“The enemy is the gramophone mind, whether or not one agrees with the record that is being played at the moment.”
He is too dumb to do anything else. The record will be changed and changed back again and again.
Trump just seems to repeat the thoughts of the last person he spoke to that actually got through to him somehow.
He also recently failed at bringing peace to Gaza, at least he loudly reacted at that.
Why Putin seems to be so good at doing that is anyone’s guess.
Because he’s been Trump’s boss for years.
Why Putin seems to be so good at doing that is anyone’s guess.
It’s probably not all that hard. We’ve seen him waffle back and forth on this one so it seems like just about anybody with the patience and will to be a sycophant can butter him up and convince him of anything.
When the fuck will you people understand that this clown does not have any sort of cohesive tie-together strategy. He just says whatever he feels like, for a variety of reasons – maybe the last person in the room was a good guy today, maybe Fox News rolled old clips of a protest, maybe Orange Guy saw an AI meme of Zelensky doing whatever, who knows.
So saying “Turn of Trump” and legitimizing his actions and words as if they are thoughtful and strategic is ABSOLUTELY BANANAS
Does he even remember stuff, is he steered by the political geniuses around him? Maybe he forgot he diddled kids.
Who knows…
I mean his strategy is doing what his daddy Putin wants and acting like an imbecile all the time
I really wish Ukraine could eliminate Putin and as many of his inner circle as possible. The world would be so much better off if all narcissist megalomaniacs were in the dirt.
Every. Single. One. Of. Them.
If we are engaging in wishes I wish the international community did not rush in to loot the USSR post fall which lead to this whole situation.
Is Trump in that inner circle, or does he just want to be?
It’s almost surreal how Trump who doesn’t give a shit about people, is beating the “stop the killing” drum here?
We all know he doesn’t give a shit about the killing, but apparently he can’t express his real reason to want to end this war?His real reason in this case is because his boss, Putin, wants him to get Ukraine to surrender.
He is extremely irritated that he didn’t win the Nobel Peace Prize and is trying to strong arm an accomplishment.
Running low on weapons is not a good time to also run low on rare earth metals needed to make those weapons.
That’s the Art of the Deal, baby! Throw a screaming swearing tantrum and demand you get your way!
And then poop your pants and call daddy Putin and ask to be called a good boy
Little baby probably didn’t get his Mcdonalds. One of his Big Mac attacks.
So is throwing a tantrum how you become a master negotiator?
Art of the Deal
He’s butthurt that he can’t get that Nobel peace prize.
The woman who just got the Nobel peace prize thanked Trump personally and has close ties to him so I’m not so sure lol maybe he’ll even get a price the world is already upside down anyway smh lmao
“I realize the concept might be foreign to you, but I’m beholden to the will of the electorate I represent. You know, like a President.”
Trump and Putin have agreed to meet in Budapest in a few weeks.
That means putin will have to be arrested so sure go ahead ! Do it!
Orbán will let Putin walk all over Hungary unmolested.
But not the surrounding countries that they need to fly through to get from Moscow to Hungary ^^ because flying above Ukraine means that they’ll be shot down immediately
Bulgaria offered passage
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Unfortunately, Budapest is in Hungary, i.e. Putin fan Orbin’s country.
Wonder how close to sunset that meeting was. Trump coulda been sundowning lol
If that guy was a drunk he’d be less unhinged.
Crazy to think it was only a hot minute ago he was swinging the other way.
Fucker is influenced so easily.
But I also think time is on a loop, this was his potion before his previous position in the flip-flop of positions.
it was only a hot minute ago he was swinging the other way.
people need to stop listening to trump and look at what he’s doing instead.
It is disgusting that a man like Zelenskyy has to even be in the same room with a vile scum sucking pig like drumpf (aka diaper don aka PEDOnald aka the child rapist).
For real… Amen
I bet if djt hopped in his F35 to dump on the disputed territories, it would stop the fighting for a while.
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