Have Win 10 and was a Windows die hard since I was a kid.
Been running Linux on another drive as my default boot for a year and a half in anticipation of this horseshit and was only hesitant to delete Win because my Fanatec sim racing hardware wasn’t supported on Linux.
Welp, turns out hid-fanatecff is a thing. Installed the kernel driver and boom, working Fanatec peripherals. Even my Moza shifter is plug-and-play.
Bye bye Microsoft.
Is there any use for a HP Reverb G2 on linux?
Fully supported by Monado looks like.
Idk how recent that Monado support is, but I couldn’t get the reverb G2 to work on Linux at all a couple years ago.
A couple years IRL is like 100 years in Linux time
Ok, guys. I’m reading some of these replies which are saying the amount of outrage is out of proportion. I have to disagree with that. I don’t want an AI running on my PC that is monitoring and learning about my shit. I didn’t want that data saved even locally, let alone the monetization of that data. I don’t want to be paying for power of a device that is turning me into someone else’s paycheck.
Can you turn it off? I believe you can. But I also believe that doing it manually would be incredibly annoying since that does go with a lot of past practice. I also get it would reactivate itself after major updates, like how Edge keeps reinstalling.
Are there other solutions to my Microsoft issues, yes. Chris Titus Tech comes to mind.
But overall, the Windows ecosystem does not feel right to me anymore. Could other people still use it, yes. Am I going to stop them, not intentionally. But my Arch gaming PC runs games better than the same machine running Windows. I’ve always entertained the idea of a full switch, still have a Windows 11 dual boot and haven’t officially done it yet, but with this the moment feels right. At least for me, hopefully you can understand that.
I had dual boot with win10 for a while, but when they had that ‘bug’ that was wiping peoples linux partition I dropped Windows completely. As dar as I’m concerned Linux and other FOSS in general has reached a point where it meets the majority of my needs. Same goes for local storage vs needing anything through the cloud or streeaming.
Every hang up I had eventually got solved. Except with modding games, I sorely miss Vortex or Mod Organizer and there’s no alternatives I know of besides doing it all manually.
That wasn’t a showstopper for me though. VR, HDR, Video Games were. These three are solved well enough for my tastes this year to drop my dual boot.
Fortunately on the modding front, the community’s already been cooking:
I‘m using it for Stardew Valley and it works pretty well. Still early days and a bit clunky to use though. Not any power user features to speak of but I guess that isn’t their target userbase for a mod manager.
Vortex works on linux though, This is the guide I used.
Is it just Bethesda games with these post-deploy scripts? I assume this:
https://github.com/pikdum/steam-deck/
Is forcing the Windows version to work somehow, but is it every game on Nexus or just Bethesda titles?
I have no idea, I only tested it with skyrim, and it worked well.
I think we have a bit of a degree of “Yep, that’s Microsoft alright” mood as a whole because it’s accepted that things are going to get worse for their users perpetually, so I personally stopped giving a shit because I already left before win10 EOL anyway. I’m guessing there’s a similar mood among others who already saw the writing on the wall.
Do yrself the favor and cut the cord.
The cool part is that 100% of the “AI features” they’re advertising are either not running locally or not AI at all
I think that if someone (even ai) is analyzing my documents, then they are bypassing my permissions and looking despite the fact that it is supposed to be private. Basically if ai is looking at my files, I don’t care if it isn’t running locally, it is bypassing my permissions to my automated stock trading algorithms. I know security isn’t exactly Windows strength anyways, but accessing my files without my consent or knowledge is a nail in the coffin for me. Granted, you can disable it, I might point you in the direction of winutil by Chris Titus, but I would bet money that a Windows update will re enable it without consent or permission.
If you don’t need to do 3D work, you can still use a virtual machine with kvm, it is really fast! (then ditch Windows :) )
If you mean CAD, I found that FreeCAD works nicely as a parametric 3D modeler with some nice macros and addons, with the perk of also running on Linux
E: added info
I’m not too into 3d modelling stuff myself, but I understand Blender is pretty good, too.
I’d agree that blender is very good. I find that it would be more suited to static stuff and renderings, as well as animations. FreeCAD is more like the commercial CAD software you’d find (Fusion 360, Solidworks).
On the topic of blender, It has some amazing features, and I am amazed at what people do with it (I also find it a bit tricky, but I probably just need to put a few more hours into learning)
Yeah, to clarify I didn’t mean Blender as an alternative but that there are decent options for another kind of 3d work in addition to CAD stuff. FreeCAD for design stuff, Blender for making pretty things (or ugly things if that’s what you’re into), Vulkan/gcc for real time 3d stuff if you like working close to the metal, Godot for real time 3d stuff if you want to do it from a higher level.
I work in IT and far be it for me to tell you what OS to use on your own computer.
The only thing I want to die right now, is the AI bubble. Just pop already. Holy fuck what a worthless endeavor this has been.
The logic behind the voice controls sounds pretty questionable, but it’s supposedly backed by data showing that users spend billions of minutes talking in Microsoft Team meetings, according to Mehdi — so they’re already used to talking on the computer, right?
Do they really reason like this? Oh my. That’s stupid. And here I was thinking Microsoft employs clever people.
I was thinking Microsoft employs clever people
As a programmer, I’ve had numerous colleagues who have ended up as software engineers at MS. They were mostly either unbelievably lazy or extremely incompetent. The rest who were both ended up there as managers.
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TBF this was all more than 5 years ago when the job interviewing process at most IT companies involved just putting a moistened finger underneath the candidate’s nostrils. Apparently the programmer job market is pretty horrific these days, although I wouldn’t know since I drive a school bus now.
As with a lot of corporate thinking, someone is tasked to justify the idea after the fact. Its not that they are unclever but that they think backwards. Conclusion first, support later.
Is that like deciding that Tylenol causes Autism, then trying to find evidence after making an announcement?
Yes, that’s a great example. I have had to deal with people that worked in such an environment and its wild. They actually thought that reports needed to show only good since that was their job before, we are talking about inventory reports being changed to be perfect as that was what they thought was wanted even though it made the report pointless.
And during those billions of minutes, most of them are cursing the existence of the spyware experience that is teams.
Finally got my last PC switched off Windows. It feels good.
The malware has been dewormed.
Four Horsemen of Apocalypse
- The country where a lot of tech countries are headquartered in, elects a wanna-be dictator
- Android restricts “sideloading” (aka: non-approved install)
- Windows has mandatory AI
- Mandatory ID Verification
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Stop SERN, Prevent WW3, Find the Steins;Gate Seikaisen (Worldline)
El. Psy. Congroo.
Just ask ChatGPT…
Don’t downgrade to Windows 11, update to Linux
Did it last month. Just open your mind like a flower in the morning, and it will only hurt a little.
I’m dangerously close to moving my gaming pc to Linux. What’s the consensus for the best distro for gaming?
I’m comfortable enough with *nix, as my daily is MacOS and I have a home lab/server.
I use Bazzite. I like it a lot.
As an avid CachyOS user, yes, Bazzite is amazing and every new Linux user (who games) should use it.
What’s the story on integrated amd gpu support? I know it’s technically supported, but would love to hear from others on how it actually feels.
AMD graphics hardware is extremely well supported on every distro out of the box. The Steam Deck, for instance, uses an AMD iGPU.
Supported by the Linux kernel, so it works out of the box.
If you have an AMD GPU then you’re in for a great time. I built my PC last year and went all AMD. Ever heard of “plug-n-play”? That’s the definition of it. All I had to do on Cachy is click a button called “install gaming packages”. On Bazzite, you don’t even click a button, it is all there out of the box.
No issues whatsoever if you have AMD
Can I use bazzite as my main distro for regular use and coding besides just gaming or it’s more focused on gaming alone and I should dual boot another distro for my non gaming needs?
You can use Bazzite to code just fine. The great thing about OS like Bazzite is it’s so easy to switch to many other atomic/immutable distros. You’re not locked in. You can just ‘rebase’ it to Aurora with a command, which is the development focused version by the same team.
Yes, especially if it’s your first distro and you haven’t learned habits from non immutable distros. Distrobox and flatpak cover most, and technically, you can install other stuff with rpm-ostree, at the cost of some space and longer update times the more you layer on.
I personally had some trouble wrapping my head around distrobox while using bazzite and trying to install coding dependencies, but I’ve been having a great time gaming and programming on Nobara! The nice thing with Bazzite is the integrated distrobox which lets you run something under any linux OS (and even windows, I think?), and should theoretically be good for coding, so if you spend more time than me you should be able to program just fine. Maybe VSCode with remote ssh addon or something.
I think they even have a developer version of Bazzite. Not sure what the differences are though.
There is no “dedicated” one for gaming. Ubuntu Mint, Debian are solid ones. I run Mint MATE personally
I would only hazard against Debian for gaming because of it’s slower update cycle (yes yes you could use unstable or sid…), so performance improvements or fixes will take longer to get to you.
Otherwise I completely second your comment; OOP, just pick anything mainstream like Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Bazzite, Pop!_OS, you’ll be fine on any of those. Once you’re comfortable with whatever you chose, then you’ll be more informed on picking a distro more suitable for your liking.
As an experienced Linux user, I just migrated my last windows machine to Debian sid, my gaming PC. And it’s great. But I started on stable, and moved to sid after a few weeks, and it really wasn’t an issue for gaming or general use. My partner’s gaming computer is still on stable.
But yeah for someone less familiar, Bazzite and Mint are great choices. Pop! OS if you like the look of it, or Zorin OS if you like its look. You can always try something new if you’re interested in its features.
Bazzite for gaming no question, thing just works, I can use Linux fine, and very competent in windows also, but with gaming I just want a system I turn on and play, not faff with, I have been using Bazzite almost since it’s beginnings, and am legitimately shocked at how turn key they have that distro for its use case.
Do you have an AMD gpu? I’m running Nvidia GPU using windows 11 and I’m hesitant because I’ve heard people say that Nvidia poses problems.
Is it a newer Nvidia GPU? If so I believe it pretty much works the same these days. It was mostly the older Nvidia GPUs that seemed to have a lot of problems.
Yeah, it’s a 40 series GPU, so pretty new. That’s encouraging. Maybe I will try dual booting first.
Yeah that should be completely fine then. Try dual boot, if you don’t have any issues you can always go 100% Linux at some point in the future and in the meantime the old Windows partition can provide some amount of reassurance if something does go wrong.
With an Nvidia GPU, I would recommend Nobara over Bazzite becomes it comes with the various drivers.
I think Bazzite has a “ujust” recipe to install Nvidia drivers. Could be wrong though.
Nvidia finally made official linux drivers, so you should be good unless you have a really weird setup.
I run NVIDIA for work related reasons, and it all just works in Bazzite,
agreeing with orclev - i setup an older nvidia gpu pc on linux mint and that pc has to have all other applications closed to play minecraft when it used to handle youtube video or actual video running and maybe an antivirus scan in the background and minecraft on top fine in windows.
GPU is running (as opposed to when the driver failed to load haha) but some kind of processing is still on CPU, i tracked down the problem but the point where i figured out i need to keep up with the latest vaapi and compile it to just diagnose it i stopped and told the kids how to quit other programs first before minecraft. or bloons.
edit: found my problem. mission center randomly spikes in cpu and memory use and gets to 99% in both…and i’m constantly running it. now i bask in swap utilization 0% forever and ever
PopOS in my opinion. It (mostly) solves the issue of getting the drivers needed to run GPUs.
i tried monjaro and garuda, seem to have had the best luck so far with pop_os out of the box. running an AMD ryzen 7 9800x3d and RTX 5070-- other distros apparently hated these things
Which driver does it install? Does it choose or do you? I’m curious how the installation process compares to Ubuntu. My install is a little borked because I started with Xorg and AMD and 22.04 and switched to Wayland and Nvidia and 24.04 all around the same time. It works but was a PITA to reconfigure everything.
It will choose for you, but you can select specific drivers if you’d like. I’ve only had to mess with installing specific drivers on edge cases.
Did you notice if GPU video decoding works in the browser? Eg VP9, h.264? I’d been struggling to get it to work with Wayland and suspect it isn’t possible.
Nvidia doesn’t support vaapi, so when I still had an nvidia card I needed to install a compatibility layer like this. You might have more problems if you want to use a Chromium based browser though
I tried I installing that already but I think it just won’t work with the snap version of Firefox.
Yea, as the other person mentioned, to my knowledge (which is limited) the video decoding in the browser on Linux tends to be browser and hardware specific. I know it’s gotten easier over the past couple years tho.
Why wouldn’t you just do a clean OS install at that point?
Bazzite is great!
Yeah, Bazzite has the best word in town for a gaming distro.
Cachyos seems like the general recommendation. Haven’t used it myself, but I’ve used its kernel so I guess that counts for something.
I run CachyOS, it works great for me. It’s not the easiest one, but I like the rolling release style and it’s by far the fastest distro I’ve used (cold boots to gnome desktop in maybe 10 seconds).
I have never heard of Cachyos until this comment.
It’s very popular to the point where multiple other distros are starting to offer its patched kernel on their distro. It’s very focused on gaming performance, particularly around Steam and Proton.
Their proton ran BL4 about 10% faster than Valves for my specific hardware. IDK what they are doing but it might as well be magic.
Cachy is the most popular distro on distrowatch. Has been for a month or more. That’s a good place to get the list of current distros.
I love CachyOS but you need to be a certain kind of nerd who can handle updates breaking stuff. Or more importantly, willing to RTFM and prevent a lot of it.
Basically I need to read these two sites before I update:
Rule of thumb is to not update constantly/daily. Nor should you update too seldomly. Weekly or monthly is the usual. If that sounds like a PITA then yeah, that’s why it’s not recommended.
my ‘arch based’ system is a cinnamon-flavoured manjaro. manjaro gets shit on for reasons, one of them being they hold back updated packages for a bit… which is basically what you recommend, and it’s what i usually do anyway–defer updates for awhile (even on windows), unless it’s a super critical issue that could actually be a problem.
that manjaro desktop has been solid, never once messed-up an update even with the aur packages i have installed, and even if it’s been a month or two since it last updated.
The stability of Arch/Cachy updates is not just about time between updates (more often is generally better) but also about accumulated old configs files with deprecated options that have been ignored and reading about breaking changes.
I updated 4 machines at the same time earlier this week (pacoloco for the win). One is a cachy/arch hybrid that started life as arch. The one with the oldest continually updated installation (it is a ship of theseus, I don’t believe it has any of the original hardware) couldn’t get to a graphical login and it took me a few minutes to replace an obsolete config file with a pacnew and get it back up.
This might have been a show stopper for someone coming from Windows or Mac. Perhaps even for some Linux users. But I am decades into this and it is how I like it. I ran slackware for years and Debian Sid. The loss of time to breakage from upgrades is absolutely trivial to me compared with the advantages of a well packaged and up to date system. If people aren’t into that there is no shame in using an immutable distro. The diversity of distros might be confusing but it is a huge advantage because there is something out there for everyone.
Monthly might be too long to not fuck an Arch update, from my previous experience.
The general consensus is that you shouldn’t be selecting your distro based on gaming, all of the modern well maintained distros will be relatively the same performance. In my opinion you should select your distro first on how well maintained it is, then on stability, & then how well you know how to fix issues. Although I don’t follow my own advice since I use arch but that is because I am far more accostumed to that ecosystem.
I use Fedora after trying Bazzite and Pop-OS. Pop had some quirks I wasn’t a fan of and Bazzite was too locked down but I’ll admit, it worked out of the box with no fuss at all.
Bazzite might seem “locked down,” but you can do pretty much anything you can do on any other distro, it’s just sometimes a different process.
Pop_os works well.
I’m running OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Works great.
Bazzite if you’re expecting it to work without any required reading
I’ll probably be going fedora aurora, it seems more solid but would require more setup
I’m installing Nobara right now. Will check in.
I use Garuda for gaming, but most would likely recommend Bazzite.
My issue is around video card. From what I’ve seen Linux drivers for the Arc B580 are minimal at best.
If you enjoy Nix, then so you know NixOS works just as well for gaming. Been using it for 2 years now.
I’ve tried them all. CachyOS is the best by a mile, IMHO. Been daily driving on my RTX 4080 rig (and my Lenovo laptop) for almost 2yrs. Haven’t found a game I can’t run.
It’s insane how much extra time, effort and sanity you can retain simply by switching to Linux. I initially switched a few years ago, then fully shortly after. Using my PCs has never been better and I had no issues with gaming. The only games that don’t work are some of the live service ones I’ll never be interested in.
One of the best decisions in my life, right up there with deleting all social media. Life keeps getting better, relatively speaking, but of course rich pedophiles just can’t tolerate us having a good time.
Switched everything to Bazzite as a start. Easiest switch after figuring out Windows sabotages boot drives.
I may have pirated all my Windows but man it feels good to be off that ride. Spoofing corporate licenses for the authenticator was such a hassle.
They do what to boot drives?
If you’re dual booting, Windows may at any time eat the other partition or, more often just its GRUB, leaving you unable to boot into Linux.
Even if you’re using separate drives, the Windows bootloader may still affect your other drives. On one of my old laptops, I had Pop!_OS and Windows on two separate SSDs. After installing Windows on the second drive, it put itself as the first boot device and broke the option to change boot order inside the BIOS. It worked, but only sometimes, and Windows would keep setting itself to the top upon every boot. Might not have been intrinsically a Windows issue, but never happened with other configurations.
I’m trying to move to Linux so that’s terrifying.
Windows can automount USB drives, so a flash drive can get inadvertently formatted, (or something to do with the bootloader, i don’t know the technical details that well.) Point is the automounting can break a flash drive that isn’t formatted for windows.
Microsoft literally wanted me to convert my desktop to e-waste as it lacks the magical TPM chip that Win11 demands.
I said “fuck that” and pulled the Boot SSD, kept the existing non-boot drives for data, and put in a brand new SSD, encrypted it and installed Pop OS in one shot.
Not only was it easy, I lost literally zero critical functionality vs. what I had with Win 10. There is a Linux app equivalent for everything I had before. I had a few driver issues but most were auto-discovered including obscure ancient printers and scanners on my network.
Why did you have to replace the SSD?
In case they had to roll back, and so they can pull data
I didn’t “have to” but, a few reasons…
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Swapping the drive created a pretty easy rollback path that was just “put original drive back”
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The drive was ~10 years old, and was in the range of recommended replacement for an SSD with the amount of TBW and age it had.
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Original drive was kinda small and a new larger drive was available for not very much money.
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it lacks the magical TPM chip that Win11 demands.
How old is it? TPM 2.0 has been standard equipment for nearly ten years now. It’s disabled by default on some systems.
Intel Core 8th gen and above, and Ryzen 2000 series and above, should all have TPM 2.0 built into the CPU (fTPM)
Does it really matter? I’ve been using my i7 from 2016 and it’s still going strong.
Depends on if you use any security features that require a TPM. If not, the older chips are fine, or some motherboards allow a separate TPM chip to be added.
For example, my employer requires TPM 2.0 for both Windows and Linux systems, since they store most encryption keys and certificates on it - including WPA2-Enterprise key for wifi, 802.1x key for wired Ethernet, SSH keys (in some cases), LUKS key for full-disk encryption on Linux, Bitlocker key on Windows, etc.
For home use, if you don’t use any of those features (or require strong encryption for them), the main thing you’ll miss out on is support for Windows 11, which is fine if you’re using Linux.
In a way, I see the lack of windows support as a positive.
Sure, but there’s Linux features that use TPM too, although you probably don’t need them in a home environment.
Arguably sometimes drivers for older devices are more likely to have been ported to Linux at some point then conpletely new devices.
It’s not TPM. Older Intel CPU’s have unpatchable hardware flaws.
I moved to pop!_os on the 14th and I am not looking back
Welcome. It’s a good OS for me.
Looking forward to them building out on Pop OS and hoping they do these:
- Apps in Folders and Folders in Folders and Folders in Folders in Folders for App Launcher (For better app organization)
- Having different task bars for each workspace pinned and saved to save different workflows
- A simple quick way to add Icons to Executable Apps instead of manually finding each to add them. Maybe an app to make executables integrated right away and to simply put Icon on it by picking an icon
Same (from macOS). Work and personal machines.
My windows laptop has been disconnected from WiFi while I back stuff up so I can migrate it to Linux. Last windows device I own.
yay! hi mint!
Windows is becoming so trash that a bunch of my not-that-tech-savvy friends have been hitting me up asking about gaming on various Linux distros. (Just a few years ago it was all “Linux? Haha nerd”.) And the non gamers are switching to Mac at a remarkable rate.
And things have progressed so well that even for the non-technical crew, after installing Mint and showing them how to use ProtonPlus to install and select Proton-GE, they’re pretty much off to the races without much further hand holding.
Linux is the only viable solution to this mess. And no it is not as scary as it seema
Does Lemmy have a “Stallman was right” community? Or is that just all of Lemmy.
Most of it, yes.
i was thinking the same thing
If you replace the c/ with ! it will become a clickable link that will take the visitor to their local instance’s copy of that community.
thanks :)
No problem, thanks too! :)
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What’s wrong with amd? In the market for a gpu right now
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Nothing. The current generation card is slightly worse in rasterization performance while handily slapping my 7900 XTX in Ray tracing performance.
Obligatory GamerNexus Video. https://youtu.be/yP0axVHdP-U
It’s fine. Not sure where you heard it’s terrible.
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If by disparity you mean sometimes Windows is better and sometimes Linux is better. I have one of those GPUs. Give it a try before you slam it. Valve has thrown so much money into Proton that support is amazing compared to when I tried a decade ago.
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I’m just shocked Fedora is playing well with a quadro series card, and I’m not looking back. If there’s some bottleneck, it’s no larger than the one on my general experience with windows. Though I would very much like to be runnung a non-tainted kernel.
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I use NVIDIA on Linux and nothing no issues or performance hits
It’s not fear, it’s laziness and just general fed-upness of dealing with computers and the overwhelming complexity of everything nowadays. There’s nothing fun or thrilling about computers anymore, it’s a black box to me now.
FreeBSD has been on a bit of a glowup arc too though, at least for general desktop use. No, but really, there needs to be a viable third option other than Windows and Linux in the desktop PC space.
I’m so glad that they’re clinging on! FreeBSD is great and they’ve made some serious moves these past years.
NetBSD even explicitly banned AI from their codebase to boot, as quoted from their Commit Guidelines:
Code generated by a large language model or similar technology, such as GitHub/Microsoft’s Copilot, OpenAI’s ChatGPT, or Facebook/Meta’s Code Llama, is presumed to be tainted code, and must not be committed without prior written approval by core.
Unlike Linux, whose recent embrace of AI in the codebase is worrying to say the least, you flat-out cannot submit AI-generated code to NetBSD unless it’s approved in writing*.
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Unlike Linux, whose recent embrace of AI in the codebase is worrying to say the least, you flat-out cannot submit AI-generated code to NetBSD.
Crazy to me that windows is finally worse than MacOS
We live in wild times
