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      Pasta and seasoning. And cheese I guess. Intended to me mixed with ground beef in order to stretch it into more meals. It’s not awful, just poor people food.

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          The pasta is real, the seasoning is real, the cheese basically is not real.

          For example, regular Cheeseburger Hamburger Helper contains trace amounts of blue cheese, which is absent from the Deluxe Cheeseburger Macaroni Hamburger Helper. The “Deluxe” product also contains parmesan cheese, palm oil, and lactic acid. These can all impact the texture and taste of the dish.

          In an email to the Daily Dot, an Eagle Foods representative wrote the following: “The difference between the Double Cheeseburger Mac and the Cheeseburger Mac products are that, for the Double Cheeseburger, the ingredient ratios are slightly different and there is double the amount of cheese powder in the seasoning packet.

          https://www.dailydot.com/news/regular-deluxe-cheeseburger-hamburger-helper/

          Its only ‘real cheese’ if you consider a dehydrated powder that you have to add butter or milk / water to, and then prepare with heat as a ‘cheese flavored sauce’ to be ‘real cheese’.

          Yep, the tiny trace amounts of ‘100% Real Cheese!’ it contains are indeed tiny denydrated crumblets of real cheese… but I am fairly sure that by that metric, Cheetos are also ‘real cheese’.

          For most Americans under the age of 40, the idea of making an actual cheese sauce out of… an actual block of actual dairy cheese from their refrigerator… that is literally a foreign concept, nobody has time to be that fancy, or even knows that is a thing you can do.

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            Because to make a proper cheese sauce you need to make a proper roux, and idk who you think is teaching the average person to do that.

            That is certainly not common knowledge today, and I doubt it has ever been common knowledge your everyday person would know. Nor is it easy to do for the inexperienced cook.

            Though I think most Americans would be happy with Sodium Citrate if they knew about it

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              Used to be that parents and grandparents would teach the kids how to cook something a bit fancier for a holiday.

              But we’re all too atomized and busy and politically polarized these days for that.

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                Yeah and many have.

                I can make Chicken Parmesan with our family recipe sauce, and a proper lasagna. With coffee cake for dessert.

                I sill was never taught how to make a roux. And I come from a family that home cooked meals every night.

                I learned how via YouTube, and I still can’t do it without fucking up 50% of the time.

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              Oh I’m not saying its all 100% bad.

              Having a reasonably healthy, similar tasting alternative is good when it is a good deal cheaper.

              I’m just saying it doesn’t cross my bar of ‘real cheese’.

              Used to be a bit of a brie and wine snob, and I still have the strong opinion that basically all pizzas should be 3 cheese blends, not just one.

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        Its food for the new poor. The generationally poor were eating chicken wings back in the 80s for $0.19 a pound and loving them. Now, after the dreadful gentrification of wings post-9/11 we’ve got ways to stretch a dollar you’ll never learn unless you marry in.

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          Kinda. I definitely had hamburger helper back in the 80s, but kit meals were a luxury we could only sometimes afford. Necessity is often the mother of culinary invention but even among “the poor” there’s some variability in cash and time (and information availability) constraints, and things like hamburger helper (cheap but not the cheapest, but also quick and easy to make) have been a fixture alongside the true broke-ass “we need food and have basically zero money” recipes.

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        It’s more of a BYO protein meal kit, with shelf stable seasoning+carb in a box, where you’re expected to add your own protein.