Your terminally online personal bias against him is completely coloring over the point being made. It’s a good point, but you’re fighting it not because it wrong, but because of who said it. You can’t attack the point so you attack the person with niche hyper-parasocial bullshit.
For what it’s worth I haven’t heard that, he’s just a creep who likes loli horse porn and has such terrible judgment that he doesn’t separate his work computer from his goon computer.
I agree with his take in this image and don’t think him being gross and having bad judgment disqualifies him from making those good points. But I also agree with the dirtbag left shitlib take, that’s a solid take about Vaush. That should be Vaush’s tagline honestly.
I think people like Vaush occupy an important space in leftist pipepline structure. Wokescolds hate it, purity test leftists hate it, but if you want to de radicalize some of these extremists, you have to give them an avenue to do so.
Young men like people like Vaush, like Hasan, like Destiny. I don’t like all of them, (I really don’t like Destiny because he’s a zionist defending shill), BUT the left needs people like them. Kids aren’t going to turn on Sam Seder or listen to an hour long deepdive vid. And it’s not just young men, I should say, MOST people are politically disengaged, they’re not terminally online, they’re not consuming hours of political theory… They want to hear a hot take, watch some cat videos and fart. You can hate that, but that’s like most people, they’re not into politics like that.
When we finger wag people for not “doing politics right” they aren’t going “oh, apologies, let me try again to meet your standard”… No, they’re going say “fuckyou” and start watching Aidan Ross, or Tim Pool or Asmongold… that’s not moving the needle in the way you want.
As far as the “Vaush Bad/Vaush Gooner” stuff, I don’t know, I don’t really give a shit enough about it. Maybe it’s as bad as people say, or maybe it’s just overblown because people LOVE to attack lefty streamers. Case and point, everyone losing their shit to jump on the “Hasan shocks his dog” story. Maybe it’s true, but a lot of it feels manufactured… so…
Don’t disagree at all, political streamers in general are teaching young people how to get news and how to critically read it more than they are acting as propogandists. Just making younger people engage with logical argument terms (no matter how they are used initially) is a net positive.
I have no problem pointing at the brands that’s these people have self inflicted by being chronically online and chronically filmed. Like I believe Hasan is introducing more people into politics than any left wing person in… I dunno maybe history. His viewership is crazy. I belive that is a net positive, as is his advocacy of Palestine.
But his visible, self-filmed behavior with that dog looked sus AF. Like I have no doubt it’s well treated, a million people have confirmed it at their own risk of catching the eye of the mob. But that clip looked really fucking bad. Like I get why people are outraged. And the more outrageous something is, the more famous the person who did the outrage, the farther that will travel.
Your terminally online personal bias against him is completely coloring over the point being made. It’s a good point, but you’re fighting it not because it wrong, but because of who said it. You can’t attack the point so you attack the person with niche hyper-parasocial bullshit.
Go outside.
Why would I attack a point that THE ENTIRE LEFT ALREADY UNDERSTANDS VERY WELL and has done so for a very long time?
Your enthusiastic defense of a white supremacist and a misogynist has been noted, shitlib.
LOL you honestly think that Vaush is a white supremacist? Holy hell.
Go
Out
Side.
Ooooh… shitlib can’t recognize a white supremacist unless they’re wearing a white hood, eh?
Colour me surprised.
For what it’s worth I haven’t heard that, he’s just a creep who likes loli horse porn and has such terrible judgment that he doesn’t separate his work computer from his goon computer.
I agree with his take in this image and don’t think him being gross and having bad judgment disqualifies him from making those good points. But I also agree with the dirtbag left shitlib take, that’s a solid take about Vaush. That should be Vaush’s tagline honestly.
I think people like Vaush occupy an important space in leftist pipepline structure. Wokescolds hate it, purity test leftists hate it, but if you want to de radicalize some of these extremists, you have to give them an avenue to do so.
Young men like people like Vaush, like Hasan, like Destiny. I don’t like all of them, (I really don’t like Destiny because he’s a zionist defending shill), BUT the left needs people like them. Kids aren’t going to turn on Sam Seder or listen to an hour long deepdive vid. And it’s not just young men, I should say, MOST people are politically disengaged, they’re not terminally online, they’re not consuming hours of political theory… They want to hear a hot take, watch some cat videos and fart. You can hate that, but that’s like most people, they’re not into politics like that.
When we finger wag people for not “doing politics right” they aren’t going “oh, apologies, let me try again to meet your standard”… No, they’re going say “fuckyou” and start watching Aidan Ross, or Tim Pool or Asmongold… that’s not moving the needle in the way you want.
As far as the “Vaush Bad/Vaush Gooner” stuff, I don’t know, I don’t really give a shit enough about it. Maybe it’s as bad as people say, or maybe it’s just overblown because people LOVE to attack lefty streamers. Case and point, everyone losing their shit to jump on the “Hasan shocks his dog” story. Maybe it’s true, but a lot of it feels manufactured… so…
Don’t disagree at all, political streamers in general are teaching young people how to get news and how to critically read it more than they are acting as propogandists. Just making younger people engage with logical argument terms (no matter how they are used initially) is a net positive.
I have no problem pointing at the brands that’s these people have self inflicted by being chronically online and chronically filmed. Like I believe Hasan is introducing more people into politics than any left wing person in… I dunno maybe history. His viewership is crazy. I belive that is a net positive, as is his advocacy of Palestine.
But his visible, self-filmed behavior with that dog looked sus AF. Like I have no doubt it’s well treated, a million people have confirmed it at their own risk of catching the eye of the mob. But that clip looked really fucking bad. Like I get why people are outraged. And the more outrageous something is, the more famous the person who did the outrage, the farther that will travel.