MAGA devotee Roberto Mosquera thought Trump would unify the country. Now he’s 8,000 miles away.

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    Gosh, if only there were some indication that Trump was a racist that hated Hispanic people before Mosquera voted for him.

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        I’m not from US, but “I hate mexicans, we have to kick them out, and let’s build a wall against them” is pretty self-explanatory, no?

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          You have to understand how many Cubans hate all other Hispanics. They consider themselves white. The “good ones” if you will.

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            It’s not even exclusive to Cubans. Pick any migrant group and the conservative members of that group hate the idea of people who were in identical circumstances to their family when they migrated getting the same chances. Fuck your got mine the entire way down.

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              Exhibit A: these types of “legitimate” Filipino-Americans who’ll just narc anyone fresh off the boat and not having permanent residency.

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            Yeah exactly, and it’s fucked.

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          There was a lot of talk about ‘recent immigrants’, while the voting population is older immigrants that got citizenship by going through the process (or people that lived on land that became the US under them), and they also hate illegal immigration because they did it ‘the right way’ and are the reason police and border patrol keeps hassling them.

          Obviously it’s the wrong way of thinking about the issue of you correctly identify that it’s basically pure racism, but I could see how you could be led there if you’re a low information voter (especially if the TV station you watch is owned by a Trump ally).

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            if you’re a low information voter

            Ignorance, whether it stems from laziness or is willful, is on them, and we are all suffering now as a consequence of their ignorance. Trump showed exactly who he was to anyone paying even an iota of attention before he was voted into office, and I have little empathy for those who now say “we didn’t know”.

            For fucks sake, he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, and everyone in the country had this piece of information before he was voted into office. What more information does a person need to judge his character? He’s a shit person and anyone who voted for him did so because they didn’t think the leopards would eat their face, giving zero empathy to all the people harmed by Trump, including those ripped off by his his fake Trump University, fraud foundation, etc., etc., etc., etc. “Low information” is no excuse.

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              You’re completely correct in all respects. However, we still need to understand it in order to fight it.

              Their playbook is not very thick. They keep doing all the same shit, and we haven’t adapted. Remember after the Trump impeachments the Republicans were saying “impeach” left and right about everything? They wanted to water down the term and the concept.

              They want to say everything the Democrats might say ideally before they say it in order to take all the power out of it. It’s part of the reason Dems seem feckless, because by the time they say something, the right has already been beating that drum for weeks. Even if it’s a terrible drum for them that holds no water. Because the point isn’t for them to say what they’re saying; it’s to make sure the Dems aren’t heard when they say the same thing.

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              Unfortunately, the majority of the electorate is that sort of person, so you need to appeal to them. You’ve got to win the voters you have, not the ones you wish you had. That’s why you need to keep your messaging simple (not saying that’s an excuse to not do the work and actually have policies).

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        Politicans lie and misdirect but why take up with the one that says they want to deliberately hurt minorities ? Why becase you’re an asshole.

        They all had a good look at this freak during 1.0 and choose him…again.

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        They literally, openly posted their step by step plan for anyone and everyone to read.

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        Hispanics are by far the largest immigrant population to the US. When MAGA was chanting and holding signs saying “Mass deportations now”, it was obvious that Hispanics would be the ones affected the most since they are the largest group. It’s not rocket science.

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        If only they hadn’t let themselves to be immersed in the Republican/Fox information silo.

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        Yeah, we have a few newcomers in the shop here, and conservatives here always tell them it’s imperative to vote conservative or they will lose their rights etc… They would have no idea what the implications are if I would not chime in and let them know if they do so they vote for the people who want to kick them out.

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    It’s sad and fucked up, but I also struggle to feel sorry because FAFO - you voted for that and if you didn’t see it coming it’s your own fault. The whole of America and the rest of the world is suffering now because an orange nazi turd was elected president.

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      we can agree that the system is fucked, even if one of its many victims doesn’t invoke empathy.

      Imagine if the state randomly picked someone to torture, on occasion it’ll get a serial killer pedophile. it does not mean that system works

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      It would be one thing if your vote brought in an administration that only affected you. But obviously, that’s not how it works. He voted for the hateful, discriminatory Trump who’s been exactly who we see every day on the news and in his own words for the last decade plus. He knew it would negatively affect others, he just assumed he would be left alone as one of the “good one” supporters…

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    I don’t mind them deporting him, but people should be returned to their home country, not to a life sentence in some notorious torture prison. They entered America illegally, they should be sent home, but that doesn’t deserve a life sentence in a dungeon.

    And NOBODY should go anywhere without due process first.

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      Dude had been in the country for 50 years, married a citizen and had a daughter. I think he’s an idiot for being a Trump supporter but the more sensible action would be to let him stay. Entering illegally is a misdemeanor. The president has 34 felonies.

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        Yeah but attempted murder is a felony. That said I agree he shouldn’t have been deported if he’s lived a long and productive life as an American without committing further crimes.

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      why does it matter how someone got here? assuming they aren’t causing any actual problems I genuinely don’t give a fuck if someone’s here “legally” or not. I’m only here because I was born here, so I didn’t have to do jack shit, why should they?

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        I understand keeping track of people entering this country. We can’t make it too easy, or every bad person from everywhere would come here, but I also recognize that is a miniscule percentage of actual immigrants. That’s why we really need to have due process, because we’re probably kicking out a lot of people that would become good taxpaying citizens. But that’s all a separate issue.

        I’m enormously concerned with this MAGA strategy of sending ANYONE, including criminals, to third countries, and only to those with serious records of human rights abuses, where they will serve life sentences for no crime other than trying to seek a better life for themselves and their families. And it’s all done without any lawyers or courts.

        Sure, they’re just strangers from a strange land, not our problem. But if we let MAGA do it to them, then it’s only a matter of time before they do it to the rest of us.

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          As an immigrant I think you should examine why you think bad people would come here. It’s actually pretty difficult and expensive. Like you can already go on vacation almost anywhere on the planet and people don’t- mostly because it’s a lot of hassle and money.

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            As if we don’t have enough shit people in America. I mean, look around! But yeah, all the baddies are coming from outside. 🙄

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        It’s supposed to be a prevention measure. Most people aren’t gonna take a weapon to a club but you frisk all of them to discourage the one who will. How the US uses it is entirely bonkers.

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    I asked him, ‘Why did you even support Trump?’” Monica said. “And he was like, ‘He’s the president. Have faith that things are gonna be different and things are gonna change.’”

    BAM! Be the change you want to see in the world /s

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      was he pro trump, or like a badly educated apolitical person who thought the US president was competent and had common sense?

      from that quote alone he seems stupid and ignorant.

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      he wasn’t deported, he was sent to a maximum security prison that tortures people, for life.
      that’s slow motion murder

      • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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        maybe don’t support leopard who campaign on eating your face just because you can only orgasms when leopards are eating your neighbours faces.

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        Their deportation appears to be part of a secretive transfer arrangement between the U.S. and Eswatini—an extension of Trump’s broader effort to expand the U.S. deportation program into Africa, despite warnings from human rights groups and lawyers who say the practice denies deportees due process and exposes them to abuse.

        Documents obtained by The New York Times show that the Eswatini government at one point requested $500 million from the U.S. in exchange for accepting third-country deportees.

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        But isn’t that also a very expensive way to murder people? How can they afford a massive system like that?

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          well they could take funding from other places?
          it’s not a linear plan though… eventually they’ll shift to extermination domestically.
          for one i’m sure it’s cheaper per-person, per-day, to imprison someone in a foreign country.
          But i think the main motivation right now is just the legal loophole of offshore torture… that and it’s the “flood the zone” strategy (bannon).
          After all of the uproar and legal stuff about El Salvador, they shifted to sending people to a whole bunch of other third world dictatorship’s maximum security prisons.
          after El Salvador got a lot of press, a lot of other countries probably stepped in and made offers.

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            Sounds like there’s also a lot of potential for soviet style gulags, forced labor camps, or basically just slavery. If that’s what USA is offering, many dictatorships would probably be glad to make a deal. Once USA figures out how to have gulgas on their own soil, the expenses will suddenly vanish entirely.

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    I have an idea that this guy is more very motivated, so he will make his way back to america just to wreak havoc…yep, he’s going to vote for the child rapist again.

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    I think saying “I told you so” or gloating just makes republicans dig in their heels, but I do think this is a good time to talk to our fellow Americans about why we believe in compassion and restraining law enforcement. Now the man seems to suck politically and that says bad things about who he is, but the story as presented is one where he made some bad choices then turned his life around to improve his community. When someone misreading a file can get you deported that’s a problem, when it can get you deported to a country you have no ties to it’s a much bigger problem.

    We have 4 amendments in the bill of rights about restraining the justice system. The 9th is also relevant here of "just because we clarified these rights doesn’t mean you can take rights we didn’t specify away.

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    These pro trumper minorities should get it worse for being so stupid. You literally said YES go your own persecution, so don’t cry now.

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      I don’t wish this on anyone no matter how stupid they are. He also was likely beaten and tortured.

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        Look at it this way, somebody else didn’t get deported so that this guy could could have a seat on the plane .

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          I don’t care. It’s my family and friends this is happening to, no one deserves this, at some point I’d like to think he realized how deeply ignorant and stupid he was supporting this, but no matter the victim, it’s wrong. Wrong is wrong.

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    LOLOL!!! Zero sympathy. Krasnov will melt his gold rings and watch for his fucking Russia Ballroom.

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    🎶🎶Oh my God! I will vote, for Donald Trump! 🎶🎶 Bet he was singing that song.