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“Yes, I will absolutely stand next to you, and if we ever have to go knock doors together,
I’m happy to stand by your side,” he added.
When it comes to politics, if they do not say exactly the words, they mean something entirely different.
What he actually said:
Yes, I will stand next to you physically if we go knock on doors together. I would be happy to be physically next to you while knocking on doors.
Why are we knocking on doors? That is never specified. For animal rights? Has he ever knocked on a door in favor of trans rights? Does his (elected) job include knocking on doors for trans rights?
He did not say, “I will stand up for,” or “I would vote in favor of,” Trans rights.
I know this guy is campaigning that he’s not a politician… Just a regular guy… But every regular guy who has ever gone into politics does the same stuff.
Also, he has a Nazi tattoo on his chest… And sure let’s give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn’t know it was a Nazi tattoo when he got it, but that raises some flags as to his commitment to trans rights when he gives an answer that is dancing around.
Ahh read between lines and assume what they mean to confirm the negative view you already have. Very healthy and not the standard MO of conspiracy theorists.
It’s fine for you to be concerned that it means what you say, but you are emphatically stating that your assumption is the truth. Even if you’re right, your methodology is flawed.
You sound like a republican or, like a person who wants right wing people to gain power within the United States. Perhaps that has to do with the fact that you are an ML, and your only desire is to see the United States crushed. Maybe that’s why you’re trying to push the idea that recognizing hypocrisy in government officials is “crazy”
Haha, not at all. You can review my comments if you want. I’m a person who is interested in having proof and facts instead of assumptions. I am of course worried about fake progressives and people like Fetterman, but deciding the conclusion and molding to facts to match it is exactly how we get people believing in nonsense.
I listen fairly often to a debunk/analyzing show of Alex Jones called Knowledge Fight. They also sometimes review others. I also listen to Know Rogan, which is a similar show critically analyzing Joe Rogan, as well as several other skeptical podcasts etc. Something they all and I as well agree on is we shouldn’t work off of preconceived notions like the subjects of their shows do, but instead make sure our assertions are backed up with evidence and truth. As I said, you have every right to be worried; that isn’t my criticism.
However, if you just do the same thing the worst right wing influencers do by making a decision and then making any minor difference to how you assume they should respond mean your preconceived notion is correct, how do you convince people that when the ring wing does it, it’s wrong, but when you do it, it’s right?
You sound exactly like an ML trying to crush the United States by dismissing anyone who questions the intention of the politicians that you want elected.
If you actually were worried about fake politicians like Fetterman, you would be taking this guy a little bit more seriously. There are a lot of red flags around him – and while I’m not saying we should write him off entirely… I’m saying his words matter and you are saying his words do not.
You’re also quickly accusing me of conspiracy theory which is a telltale sign of your actual intentions. What a joke.
I mean, I’m a black American living in Georgia. Acceleration would mean my death, probably faster than most. To me you sound like exactly what you’re accusing me of. I’m not specifically defending this politician, but your accusations are wild and you act like you’re certain. While I did compare your statement to the like of conspiracy theory, you’re also saying I’m Republican, then militant left. While I can have some things I agree with those further left than I, I stand only to have negative repercussions for being accelerationist, and I do truly wish we can survive without collapse. Whether it can actually happen at this point is a point of doubt, but I’m nowhere to to point of wanting a collapse.
I’ve never owned a gun, never fired one, and am rather hesitant to hurt people, even if they’re reprehensible. I honestly don’t know how I’d survive collapse. It’s a self serving position for me to not want collapse, and I also believe people can change. I don’t know if this guy has, but I’d rather not make up role for him to hang himself; if he’s a problem he should be judged by not imagined faults, but confirmed ones. You still have the right to not choose him, just be careful that you don’t let preconceived opinions dictate how you judge everyone.
A two day old account with 50+ comments doing nothing but stirring up shit about how no one meets your purity test and accusing everyone in this thread of being from ML for not thinking “yes, I will stand with you” (coming from a marine) is an inadequate answer to the question “will you stand with me?”.
Maybe you are here in good faith, but it sure as hell doesn’t seem like it.
I’m not entirely sure where you’re going with all of this, but I’m just commenting on his quote and how he did not Answer the question. The fact that you’re getting angry about this curious.
If you take part of the guys statement and ignore the rest of it, and fixate on him not using the precise words “stand up”, I guess I can understand what you are getting at. But in context, he seems to be expressing the exact opposite of what you are claiming.
Yes, I will stand next to you physically if we go knock on doors together. I would be happy to be physically next to you while knocking on doors.*
LOL. You can’t claim to focus on what he actually said when you’re responding to an edited version of his answer designed to confirm your preconceived notions.
Eh, not really. This is not an admission of support. Here’s why.
I’ve seen firsthand what it looks like when these creeps invade tolerant spaces. We’re talking clubs packed full of goths, punks, metal-heads, very gay people, and the occasional furry. First, it’s just one or two. Then their friends show up. You may not even realize it until it’s too late. And there they are, happily mixing it up with everyone else. Their bigotry is usually only evident when put to the test, and there aren’t a lot of situations where that’s called for. But provoke their sense of ‘correct’ social hierarchy and things get bad, fast. Then the bouncers get called in to handle the really stupid/violent ones.
And that’s where the problem lies with this statement. Nazis have zero issues standing side-by-side with the people they hate. Just as long as they know they can seize control or maintain the upper-hand whenever they want, is enough. In this situation, we have someone running for public office, versus someone who’s just a voter. They’d be holding all the power in this situation, and didn’t admit to lending that power to a trans person in any way; something that would divorce him from Nazis support. So, the assertion of “stand by your side” isn’t even worth the electricity it took to get it to our screens.
I don’t know a single person who accidentally got a nazi tattoo or made a whoopsie by going to Iraq for three tours then enjoying killing so much he signed up to do it for profit. I agree people change but that doesn’t mean they should be trusted as a senator. There is still time for a better choice.
What do you mean? He worked for Constellis, formerly Blackwater, a private mercenary company, in Afghanistan. This company changed it’s branding partly because of bad publicity from civilian massacres committed by it’s soldiers.
This. He said the good thing… I don’t like the click bait.
He answered it in a way that did not commit to “standing up for”
Can you expand on why you believe this?
When it comes to politics, if they do not say exactly the words, they mean something entirely different.
What he actually said:
Why are we knocking on doors? That is never specified. For animal rights? Has he ever knocked on a door in favor of trans rights? Does his (elected) job include knocking on doors for trans rights?
He did not say, “I will stand up for,” or “I would vote in favor of,” Trans rights.
I know this guy is campaigning that he’s not a politician… Just a regular guy… But every regular guy who has ever gone into politics does the same stuff.
Also, he has a Nazi tattoo on his chest… And sure let’s give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn’t know it was a Nazi tattoo when he got it, but that raises some flags as to his commitment to trans rights when he gives an answer that is dancing around.
Ahh read between lines and assume what they mean to confirm the negative view you already have. Very healthy and not the standard MO of conspiracy theorists.
It’s fine for you to be concerned that it means what you say, but you are emphatically stating that your assumption is the truth. Even if you’re right, your methodology is flawed.
You sound like a republican or, like a person who wants right wing people to gain power within the United States. Perhaps that has to do with the fact that you are an ML, and your only desire is to see the United States crushed. Maybe that’s why you’re trying to push the idea that recognizing hypocrisy in government officials is “crazy”
Haha, not at all. You can review my comments if you want. I’m a person who is interested in having proof and facts instead of assumptions. I am of course worried about fake progressives and people like Fetterman, but deciding the conclusion and molding to facts to match it is exactly how we get people believing in nonsense.
I listen fairly often to a debunk/analyzing show of Alex Jones called Knowledge Fight. They also sometimes review others. I also listen to Know Rogan, which is a similar show critically analyzing Joe Rogan, as well as several other skeptical podcasts etc. Something they all and I as well agree on is we shouldn’t work off of preconceived notions like the subjects of their shows do, but instead make sure our assertions are backed up with evidence and truth. As I said, you have every right to be worried; that isn’t my criticism.
However, if you just do the same thing the worst right wing influencers do by making a decision and then making any minor difference to how you assume they should respond mean your preconceived notion is correct, how do you convince people that when the ring wing does it, it’s wrong, but when you do it, it’s right?
You sound exactly like an ML trying to crush the United States by dismissing anyone who questions the intention of the politicians that you want elected.
If you actually were worried about fake politicians like Fetterman, you would be taking this guy a little bit more seriously. There are a lot of red flags around him – and while I’m not saying we should write him off entirely… I’m saying his words matter and you are saying his words do not.
You’re also quickly accusing me of conspiracy theory which is a telltale sign of your actual intentions. What a joke.
I mean, I’m a black American living in Georgia. Acceleration would mean my death, probably faster than most. To me you sound like exactly what you’re accusing me of. I’m not specifically defending this politician, but your accusations are wild and you act like you’re certain. While I did compare your statement to the like of conspiracy theory, you’re also saying I’m Republican, then militant left. While I can have some things I agree with those further left than I, I stand only to have negative repercussions for being accelerationist, and I do truly wish we can survive without collapse. Whether it can actually happen at this point is a point of doubt, but I’m nowhere to to point of wanting a collapse.
I’ve never owned a gun, never fired one, and am rather hesitant to hurt people, even if they’re reprehensible. I honestly don’t know how I’d survive collapse. It’s a self serving position for me to not want collapse, and I also believe people can change. I don’t know if this guy has, but I’d rather not make up role for him to hang himself; if he’s a problem he should be judged by not imagined faults, but confirmed ones. You still have the right to not choose him, just be careful that you don’t let preconceived opinions dictate how you judge everyone.
A two day old account with 50+ comments doing nothing but stirring up shit about how no one meets your purity test and accusing everyone in this thread of being from ML for not thinking “yes, I will stand with you” (coming from a marine) is an inadequate answer to the question “will you stand with me?”.
Maybe you are here in good faith, but it sure as hell doesn’t seem like it.
Do better.
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I can safely say I have not watched a YouTube streamer in my life.
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I’m not entirely sure where you’re going with all of this, but I’m just commenting on his quote and how he did not Answer the question. The fact that you’re getting angry about this curious.
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If you take part of the guys statement and ignore the rest of it, and fixate on him not using the precise words “stand up”, I guess I can understand what you are getting at. But in context, he seems to be expressing the exact opposite of what you are claiming.
If I focus on what he actually said, and not what you want me to think he means… l o l
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I disagree with you but you have beautiful fingers and are under no obligation to doxx yourself for anyone, ever.
It’s amazing how when you come back online I get messages from several different users within a few minutes but then nothing in between
Lol! I proved it so now you accuse me of botting? Thanks man, I had a great laugh. Anywho, game time, have a great night.
LOL. You can’t claim to focus on what he actually said when you’re responding to an edited version of his answer designed to confirm your preconceived notions.
You’re grasping at straws now.
Eh, not really. This is not an admission of support. Here’s why.
I’ve seen firsthand what it looks like when these creeps invade tolerant spaces. We’re talking clubs packed full of goths, punks, metal-heads, very gay people, and the occasional furry. First, it’s just one or two. Then their friends show up. You may not even realize it until it’s too late. And there they are, happily mixing it up with everyone else. Their bigotry is usually only evident when put to the test, and there aren’t a lot of situations where that’s called for. But provoke their sense of ‘correct’ social hierarchy and things get bad, fast. Then the bouncers get called in to handle the really stupid/violent ones.
And that’s where the problem lies with this statement. Nazis have zero issues standing side-by-side with the people they hate. Just as long as they know they can seize control or maintain the upper-hand whenever they want, is enough. In this situation, we have someone running for public office, versus someone who’s just a voter. They’d be holding all the power in this situation, and didn’t admit to lending that power to a trans person in any way; something that would divorce him from Nazis support. So, the assertion of “stand by your side” isn’t even worth the electricity it took to get it to our screens.
Trump’s made a million “good thing” promises.
This dude is obviously prone to making either bad, and/or - at the very least - poorly-informed choices. Not the qualities of a good leader.
You think all your decisions over the last decade and a half were perfect?
I don’t know a single person who accidentally got a nazi tattoo or made a whoopsie by going to Iraq for three tours then enjoying killing so much he signed up to do it for profit. I agree people change but that doesn’t mean they should be trusted as a senator. There is still time for a better choice.
Your point would be stronger without lying about a job as personal security.
What do you mean? He worked for Constellis, formerly Blackwater, a private mercenary company, in Afghanistan. This company changed it’s branding partly because of bad publicity from civilian massacres committed by it’s soldiers.