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Doug Holland@lemmy.world to THE POLICE PROBLEM@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 years ago

Man in mental health crisis shot police dog that was biting him, so eight Utah cops firing 51 shots to kill him were 'justified'

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Man in mental health crisis shot police dog that was biting him, so eight Utah cops firing 51 shots to kill him were 'justified'

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Doug Holland@lemmy.world to THE POLICE PROBLEM@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 years ago
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      Public execution happens anytime a cop gets shot

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          Two shots, then reassess — that makes sense to me.

          Come the adrenaline and it’s just squeeze the trigger til nothing happens any more.

          What doesn’t make sense to me is shooting this guy. Maybe it’ll make sense if/when we’re allowed to see what happened. That happens, sometimes.

          Not often, but sometimes.

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        How long does it take to fire those many shots? It wouldn’t be “mere seconds”, would it?

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          8 cops all shooting at once would only need to fire 7 times and that even has a few misses. That could actually be done insanely quickly.

          With that said, I don’t think we need to play “devil’s advocate” to justify this situation at all and I think it’s highly inappropriate. Either the cops are highly trained professionals or they’re scared idiots. If the police with all their ‘training’ can react like scared idiots then at least the same level of leeway should be given to the people they constantly assault.

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    https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statements-law-enforcement-response

    Our review of public records of firearms discharges by police indicates that it is common for 50% or more of all shooting incidents to involve an officer shooting a dog.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/police-kill-dogs-alarming-rate-170111652.html

    these canine murders have become so common that the Department of Justice has dubbed the phenomenon “an epidemic.” The DOJ estimates that cops kill 25 to 30 dogs every day, meaning that as many as 10,000 dogs die at the hands of police annually.

    Therefore, by their own logic, shooting cops is justified. They shoot dogs like it’s their job, and they regularly brandish weapons at people.

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    America has a gun problem.

    Fuck any fucker who shoots a dog.

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      Fuck any fucker that weaponizes animals to enact state violence upon innocent citizens.

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    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

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