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Ah…the Adobe business model. Make your customers hate your company and product. Bold move.
I call it: “Fuck you, buy our stuff.”
I know this isn’t about Adobe, but fuck Adobe. As a user I really do hate them and wish them nothing but failure.
Well hey it’s working well for adobe so far
Anyone know how to cancel a monthly subscription to condensed cream of mushroom? I was drunk and the free trial seemed like a good idea at the time
What was said, from the article:
Local 4 News in Detroit broadcast portions of the recording. In it, a speaker identified as Bally is heard saying, “We have s**t for f***king poor people. Who buys our s**t? I don’t buy Campbell’s products barely anymore. It’s not healthy now that I know what the f**‘s in it.”
He also referenced “bioengineered meat,” saying, “I don’t wanna eat a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer.”
The recording, which lasted longer than an hour and 15 minutes, included what Garza said was a “disgusting” rant alleged to be made by Bally about his coworkers: “F***ing Indians don’t know a f***ing thing,” and “Like they couldn’t think for their f***ing selves,” it said in part.
The bioengineered meat bit is honestly hilarious to me, it’s clear this guy has no relation to actual production. 3D printed meat is nowhere near viable for the scale of production that Campbells operates at- it can’t keep up with the sheer volume required and it is significantly more expensive than traditional meat production.
Dude’s just gone off the deep end with right-wing conspiracy theories, which makes sense given the whole racist tirade and hating the poor.
Wait till these people learn about chicken nuggets.
We already had that idiotic “pink slime” scare several years ago. No need to rehash that nonsense.
Tell me more? A nugget of chicken, you say…?
What part of the chicken is that? I had chicken fingers the other day. Had no idea they had fingers either.
A tornado touched down years ago on a massive chicken farm in NC, near Durham. Hundreds of thousands of chickens were flung into the forests, impaled on branches.
Campbells paid to clean it up.
Its sounds more like a tongue-in-cheek comment to me.
Yeah it was just comedy disguised as racism…
I’m referring to the part about 3D printed meat that the previous commentor was referencing not the guy’s overall tirade, his racism, or the fact that he’s a piece of shit. I don’t believe as a VP he thinks there’s a factory floor somewhere full of 3D printers pumping meat into his product.
I don’t see the benefit in fabricating stories when there are so many factual reasons to discredit him over. The rest are just distractions.
The craziest thing to me about this is that the employee (who was very smart to record this conversation) literally used official internal channels to report this. Rather than deal with it professionally, they fired him for being honest.
Well, I guess it’s time to leak to the press, then…
Also, from those remarks, it really seems like the VP hates his job. They should’ve done him and the company a favor and fired him instead.
Tales as old as men. Corpos aren’t your friends and the processes are there to placate employees and then fire them.
The companies Facebook is getting wrecked by the “MAHA” crowd, which is pretty hilarious. They are not happy about the bio-engineered meat.
That’s so much worse than the title suggested.
“Who buys our s**t? I don’t buy Campbell’s products barely anymore. It’s not healthy now that I know what the f**‘s in it.”
Maybe, I dunno, make it more healthful?
(English pedant peeve: food is not “healthy” or unhealthy; it’s healthful or unhealthful. Living things are healthy, nutrients are healthful. A state of health versus a beneficial quality.)
Technically correct, but actual usage has made “healthy” synonymous with “healthful” as well as far more commonly used. The distinction was pretty useless, anyway. A “who/whom” situation.
Obligatory “technically correct, the best kind of correct”
That’s how English works. It’s usage. I think the French have a council that decides but English moves a lot faster.
I get having a pet peeve. I for one hate that ignorant means uneducated when it should be someone who is willfully ignoring. That’s just not the way it played out.
I love dictionaries and word usage. “Healthful” is a clunky word, I’m not surprised we moved to “healthy “
Edit: I just realized “helpful” sounds just fine. But if someone said to me “thanks for being so helpy today” I would be a full of seething hatred lol
“Healthy” has always been an actual word, while “helpy” hasn’t, so no wonder it’s grating!
I’m all for language changing when it makes sense. I can’t think of any situation where using “healthy” instead of “healthful” obfuscates the meaning in any way. Same with “who” and “whom.” “Whom” and “healthful” could disappear and nothing of value would be lost. But when it comes to things like “literally” meaning “figuratively,” I mourn the loss of utility the word used to have.
Oh and it literally worries me when people use one word to mean the exact opposite. That isn’t advancement it’s degradation.
And ten points to grifendor for the word “obfuscate “ it’s one of my favorites.
Sorry for the tripple reply. This is one of the things I get excited about.
Knock knock
Who’s there
To
To who?
It’s to whom actually.
Yes as long as what you’re saying makes sense that’s all that matters. Language is just the sound you make to communicate the idea in your head to someone else.
The opposite tho is names. I’m Michael. Not Mike. It doesn’t offended me to be called Mike but that’s not the sound your face needs to make to get my attention. It’s a different sound.
But for just talking… “I stop speak right but you can hold it, then where’s the rub?”
I actually would play around by calling “money” different things. See how weird I could get. “Bucks” fine. Doodlyfranks? In context it works just fine. You can call money anything. Since fallout I regularly say “I’m short on caps” no one’s ever questioned it.
Excellent example of how names work. It’s not about if I’m annoyed or not. If you want to get my attention you have to flap your meat together and blow air thru it this way (the meat people story if you haven’t heard that. It’s great)
I reply with classical works of the philosopher Monty python
“Is you wife a goer, know what I mean, I bet she does I bet she does”
Language has always fascinated me. Clown too. Not party but the ones who don’t talk but communicate ideas thru body language and face make up. Yes the makeup serves a practical communicative purpose.
Omg I just realized my money concept also applies to sex.
“My wife and I were slapping the banker last night, she got to keep the change”
French moves just as quickly. The Académie Française exists to make sure the French you learn in school doesn’t keep up.
I only heard about it because of an article about them trying to find a French word for “e-mail”
Did that become of thing? Did it catch on?
I’m curious because in English once something has a “name” it never changes. Hell Donald trump tried to rename the Gulf of Mexico. I’m in Texas, no one is changing the name. It’s the Gulf of Mexico.
Once something is established it doesn’t change.
Did they change email into something more French? Does that work like that?
Nope. It very much did not catch on. We call a message received by email “un mail” and then to avoid overloading we have" le courier". Best, mark
I’m feeling very gasful today.
Have you tried taking a pill to make you ungasful?
Better option: don’t be poor.
Sounds like a lot of effort and nepotism
Poor people can’t afford canned soup, not since covid. Campbells was was 2/$1, $.79 at most. Now it’s $2. Progresso was 3/$5, maybe $1.50 per. Now it’s $2.79 each.
Crockpot or instapot and a freezer is the way, now.
I guess Instant Pot really fucked up by not calling their product “Instapot,” huh?
I always thought that’s what it was, then I googled “instapot” and found it’s not actually a thing. TIL!
…I’m still gonna call it that, though.
I hate you
Blame English for being unpleasant to say “nt” followed by a “p” sound.
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only person who likes making weird sounds with their mouth
Or pretty much any consonant, hence instacart?
This is how the English language works.
I hate you more
You’re British.
I’m not sure I’ve ever been accused of such a thing before.
That’s awfully helpy! Thanks for the thing you said I wasn’t knowful about.
Yup. Crockpot with beans, rice, lentils, chopped veggies, a few bouillon cubes, spices, and whatever meat the grocery store has on clearance. The entire thing will average out to like $1 per bowl, and a big crockpot will keep a couple fed (lunch and dinner) for several days.
a few bouillon cubes
saaaaaalty
Bruh costco chicken is like $5, get some chicken and make some chicken soup with that.
$2 is insane for salt water
Costco isn’t great. Sure, there’s those chickens, flannel, and socks, but most of the rest is no longer cheaper than anywhere else.
We just break down whole fryers, make bone broth with everything that isn’t the meat, freeze it.
Poor people buy Campbell’s? That shit is pricey as hell nowadays and I can’t remember the last time I gave a fuck about their overpriced oversalted garbage.
Not in food deserts.
Walk into a chain pharmacy or a dollar store in the US and Campbell’s will be one the cheapest of the 3 soup brands they offer.
And it might sound crazy, but there are tons of people living in motels full time as well, with no more than a mini fridge and a microwave to cook with. Some of the only affordable housing out there is simply rented out bedrooms in someone else’s house - meaning a shared kitchen, complete with competition for cooking times and space.
It’s easy to say as others have and talk about it being far cheaper to make soup yourself. But the reality is, not everyone has the time, space, or equipment to do that. Having to buy ready-made food is another poor tax, in a way.
That fucking sucks and is dystopia as hell
Well then, I stand corrected. I am happy to not be in a food desert.
The title of the article is some serious clickbait. I suggest that you go read the article for yourself or you’ll seriously get the wrong idea.
First, the article is basically not about the VP mocking poor people, but about a lawsuit. A person recorded the VP’s remarks, which allegedly included racist statements against Indian people. He reported the meeting to management, and then he was fired. The article is about a lawsuit for his being fired for reporting racially discriminatory conduct.
(The guy said he recorded the conversation because he thought the meeting would be about his salary, and wanted to get the comments on record, so even if that’s true, it sounds like he knew the VP was a piece of shit who couldn’t be trusted.)
Second, the VP was in IT, and was not involved in the production or sales of food. He had the title of Chief Information Security Officer.
In a big company, VPs don’t actually hold that important of a role in the first place. It sounds like this VP was a serious asshole. Probably the VP’s manager is similarly a seriously incompetent asshole who deserves to be fired, but anybody who has worked in a big company knows these types of guys are a dime a dozen. They weasel their ways in to middle and upper-middle management and it is not rare for them to be completely incompetent and constantly shit on the company and product in private. They often form a sort of asshole clique and make entire sections of a company hellish to work in.
The things these rich pieces of fucking trash deserve is a list based on brutality and rage
Jokes on him, I can only afford ramen
Jokes on them, their soups are not cheap anymore.
Plenty of other soups to buy, many of which even taste like food, unlike Campbells.
I’m not sure if it’s just that my palate became more picky as I’ve gotten older, but I remember canned soups being pretty decent as a kid. Nowadays I usually cook my own food, but recently I’ve been trying canned soups again, and I’m astonished how bad most brands are. Campbells or Progresso are either bland or taste actively terrible. The only ones I’ve tried that actually taste good are usually kinda expensive, like Amy’s or Snow’s.
Curious if anyone here who was an adult 20 or 30 years ago can confirm that affordable canned soups tasted better in the past, or if my memory is deceiving me.
You’re not wrong. Progresso in particular is nasty.
Was wondering if it was just me. I used to remember the chicken noodle being salty AF but not awful, and now it tastes more like the can it came in. Pretty bad.
At least some part of this is related to aging. Our sense of taste seems to diminish as we age, but also we get exposed to more and more complex flavor profiles as we go through life. Canned soups dont even taste salty to me anymore, they just taste bland.
Oh, I don’t doubt that. I’m an amateur “chef” or at least a cooking enthusiast. I’ve had to ask for more help checking flavors as I’ve gotten older. But those soups have deteriorated in quality faster than my taste buds.
Oh yeah for sure.
Same. Oddly, store brand condensed tomato soup is great.
Funnily enough there’s a term for this in the UK; it’s called Doing a Ratner’s.
That’s exactly what I thought of! Classic British tale
Everyone should avoid that shit anyway. There are healthier and less expensive soups out there, Make your own!!!
Obvious ragebait aside… the guy thought he was going to lunch to talk about salary, and recorded the conversation? Something smells a bit fishy there. The rest seems like standard rich people and corporate bullshit that sadly happens at all big corps. So it isn’t really all that suprising.
I don’t understand people who don’t try to document or record anything work or business related. They’re not your friends, and handshakes don’t always hold up in court.
1-party states ftw!
Most of the time documenting things doesn’t matter. It’s very expensive to try and sue billion dollar companies. And if your name gets out, your job prospects drop dramatically. Sadly, proof doesn’t get you very far toward justice. The system is designed to protect commerce, not people.
There’s some sort of lawsuit with retaliation over whistleblowers/racism, and I think the guy was recording to make sure that any salary promises were documented. The whole situation seems fucked.
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its mostly water anyways,.
This administration will excuse it the order will come down from the Supreme Court and Pam bondi to excuse the racist behavior.
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