The Department of Justice instructed prison auditors across the country to simply stop assessing whether facilities are violating laws designed to shield LGBT+ prisoners from sexual abuse

The U.S. Department of Justice will “immediately” stop enforcing a swathe of federal regulations protecting trans and intersex prisoners from rape and sexual assault, according to leaked documents.

In a memo obtained by the non-profit news outlet Prism, DoJ official Tammie M. Gregg told prison auditors across the nation to “immediately pause” all “compliance determinations” for key safety rules concerning LGBTQI+ inmates, and advise prisons to “disregard” them.

Those rules include requiring trans and intersex prisoners to be allowed separate showers, banning body searches purely for the purpose of finding out what genitals they have, and requiring prison staff to consider their safety when assigning them to male or female wings.

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    Fuck this whole administration. Fucking disgusting.

    I’m not American, but that violates the “cruel and unusual punishment” part of the constitution, no?

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      There has long been a dark undertow of anti-intellectuals and sick fuckers in this country that I’ve encountered with all my life that practically celebrate prison rape (of men by other men) because they think it’s deserved. For pretty much any crime, they think that is part of the punishment.

      They are sick and broken people, and unfortunately, it is part and parcel of the culture.

      When W came along and proposed doing something about this, I remember having conversations much like I had on the playground, except with supposed functioning adults - they’d give blank stares as if they thought it was anathema to do something about it. They seriously think that rape (and other violence) is something you deserve in prison. Like it didn’t even compute for them to have no tolerance for rape of men.

      I’m sure these people think that trans/intersex “deserve” it even more so…

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        People like that think rape is ok, period. They don’t believe women about it, either, because they think any “excuse” you give the rapist is valid whether it’s wearing a skirt, having a drink, being LGBT+, committing any crime, being in the wrong place at the wrong time, etc.

        They think rape is the right of men. (They likely also believe female perpetrated rape isn’t real at all)

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      The ghouls on the supreme court have ruled that to be banned, a punishment must be both cruel and unusual. If it’s cruel and common then it’s fine for certain types of cruelty. Like solitary confinement lasting weeks, or months, or even years in some cases.

      There are more okay forms of cruelty, and a lot of things that are banned, but fewer banned things than anyone with human empathy would condone.

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    If you order and carry out this kind of thing, there is something wrong with your brain.

    Even W had the fucking decency to start initiatives to do something about prison rape, FFS.

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    These people want everyone raped in prison.

    They’re fundamentally the most evil people to exist and need to be killed before they kill us first

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        hopefully nobody reminds them because I’m confident these people think prison rape is the entire point of prisons

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          Oh, for sure. I grew up in a deeply red part of the country, and if you don’t already know, I assure you that there are many conservatives that think rape is, and should be, part of the “correctional” prison complex. That if you commit a crime, even something relatively minor, if you don’t go to get prison and get raped, well, then, they personally feel you cheated or that the system isn’t working quite properly. Because prison is supposed to be punishment, and obviously, that means rape, I guess. And other forms of violence.

          Again, that’s for male cishet prisoners. Unless you are “manly” enough to avoid it, I guess. Anyone else - they deserve it.

          I’m quite sure that for trans/intersex their thoughts are even more horrible.

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    And the Project2025 agenda takes yet another step towards their dream goal of a theocratic dictatorship.

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      I keep hoping that the people will come to their senses at some point. But I suspect that this is just what America is. I’ve never in my lifetime been more ashamed to be an American.

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      Americans genuinely seem to believe that sexual assault in prison is an engineered intention of the prison system. We also get an earful about how rape is the consequence of inmates assaulting one another with scant acknowledgement of the chronic abuse by prison staff against inmates.

      No real consideration of why the US is uniquely positioned as having some of the most dangerous and deplorable prisons in the world. No real introspection surrounding the real purpose of inmate torture and abuse, or how it facilitates the profiteering off of inmate labor.

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            it’s not tankie to have critiques of america

            it’s tankie to deny legitimate criticism of regimes whilst also leveling similar critique at simply “enemys of”, or doing a what-about-ism in order to redirect discussion away from said criticism

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              it’s tankie to deny legitimate criticism

              All this time, I thought “Tankies” supported military intervention by Communist states.

              Turns out any disagreement with a capitalist criticism qualifies.

              No wonder there are so many Tankies in here.

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      There literally could not be any other possible point to this, even if they tried

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    “Americans allow Trump DoJ to immediately stop enforcing prison rape protections for trans and intersex people”

    Fixed

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        Easy to talk shit while sitting in another country. These same types of monsters are working to take Canada as well. If they do, I’ll make sure to post a snarky lil comment about it while you’re struggling.

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          This is my favorite kind of MAGA-level defensive bullshit comment.

          We tell you repeatedly what is going to happen if you keep letting your kid run around playing with matches and are met with literal decades of belligerent, shitty “mind your own business! USA! USA!” responses- and now that your house is ablaze and we’re telling you to PUT IT THE FUCK OUT, your very smart and good response is “lol shut up, the fire is going to spread to your house too.”

          People like you are why the US is fucked.

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            I’m about the furthest from MAGA as you can get. But if lumping me together with them makes it easier for you, then go ahead i guess. It’s really difficult to entertain more than one point of view at a time, after all…

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        What do you suggest I, and American, do? I’m part of local antifascist and socialist organizations. I help support those most affected by the gestapo. I protest (and yes, I attended No Kings) and frequently write my local officials and representatives. Am I supposed to rise up in revolution? With what organization? How do we have any possible chance of defeating the US military, much less the Christian right who own almost all the weapons?

        Genuinely, what else do I do. I feel like I’m doing everything I physically can to resist short of throwing my life away in what will be deemed a “terrorist attack” the next day, and yet constantly see people derisively commenting on the uselessness of American opposition short of a hopeless violent revolution. What would you have me do? Not protest? It’s one of the few ways that most citizens can resist, and the administration clearly fucking hates it.

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          Convince other people. You’re doing the right things but not enough of you are. You need more people in the cause.

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        You mean the cute little parade, right?

        Only if the weather’s nice. And if they get all their permits beforehand.

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          I’ve been told asking anything more from people is too much because they have families and jobs. I get the feeling they’re not looking further ahead to where the fascism and blatant disregard for human rights affects them. Every day it creeps closer.

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            Right, because no one in history who ever put themselves at risk had a job, family, dreams, hopes, or anything to lose. Americans’ heroes, in their eyes, were all just superhuman Disney characters who never really were in danger of losing anything and whose victory was guaranteed.

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          I am pretty sure you mean that we exist because of the ruling class. The American Revolution wasn’t really a popular uprising. It was a bunch of wealthy people seizing power through propaganda and terrorism.

          There was never the “people” as you put it. It was a country by the rich for the rich with a nice helping of liberal propaganda the placate the masses.

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    Seems like a feature of American prisons. Never see articles about European prisons having problems with rape.

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    In a memo obtained by the non-profit news outlet Prism, DoJ official Tammie M. Gregg told prison auditors across the nation to “immediately pause” all “compliance determinations” for key safety rules concerning LGBTQI+ inmates, and advise prisons to “disregard” them.

    Holy shit, Tammie M Gregg was former director of the National Prison Project for the ACLU. Goddamn.

    Tammie M. Gregg was the Deputy Director for the ACLU’s National Prison Project. Tammie also led the ACLU’s Stop Solitary campaign. Tammie came to NPP from a long and distinguished career with the U.S. Department of Justice and other federal agencies. After beginning her career with law firms in Minneapolis and Washington, in 2000 she joined DOJ as a trial attorney in the Civil Rights Division. From 2003 to 2011 she was a senior attorney in the Special Litigation Section, where she worked on cases involving prisons, jails, and policing. She rose to the level of Principal Deputy Chief of the Section, where she provided day-to-day supervision to a staff of over 70 people.

    What the actual goddamned fuck

    15th National Indian Nations Conference - Opening Remarks - Tammie Gregg

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      According to the electoral college, every state either voted 100% for trump or harris. So no one voted for Jil Stein. And if you’re in a red state, NO ONE VOTED FOR HARRIS EITHER, and vice versa. Stop purposely being stupid of this fact.

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        Voting for a candidate that can’t win is worse than not voting. Third-parties actively harmed the process and used resources that could have been spent preventing this bullshit.

        We live in a 2-party system. If you aren’t happy with the Dems, make that displeasure known in the primaries, then vote against the fascists in the general election no matter what. It’s not that fucking complicated.

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      Yeah, to al the assholes who decided not to vote for a progressive

      We could’ve had West abolish prisons

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      I don’t agree with that strategy either, but she didn’t carry enough votes to have made the difference anyway…

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      now now it is illegal to say that if you’re talking about trump, but NOT illegal to say “with a mortar launcher” because that’s its own sentence; it’s an incomplete sentence that had absolutely nothing to do with what was said before that, so perfectly fine, perfectly legal.

      still illegal to wish death on trump (as president) though, but technically legal to say “we have a group that meets fridays under the brooklyn bridge, we sing sabrina carpenter karaokes after meetings, and the password is ‘sic semper tyrannis’”.

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    Going to Hell is getting off too easy for these people. Jfc. I want to fucking scream at the top of my lungs.

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      There is no hell - if we want them to ever face some kind of punishment for their actions, we’re gonna have to do it ourselves…