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minus-squareSpikesOtherDog@ani.sociallinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5·3 days agoMaybe the cost sobered them up and they had a real thought of the real worth of what they were doing. It’s all fun and games until you hit the squeeze.
minus-squareZDL@lazysoci.allinkfedilinkarrow-up3·3 days agoPersonally I don’t care how people convert to the right way of thinking. I care that they do it. This purity test mentality is what kills movements.
minus-squareSpikesOtherDog@ani.sociallinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·3 days agoFair. I was a petty church boy until people who were kind enough to challenge my beliefs without belittling me. If I had been shunned for not getting it about then president Dubya, I might have become a very different person.
minus-squareZDL@lazysoci.allinkfedilinkarrow-up3·2 days agoExactly this here. All this purity posturing drives people away from movements. I like to borrow a phrase from Stratagem Twenty-Two (Catch the Thief by Closing His Escape Route): 围师必阙,穷寇勿迫。 Roughly translated it means, “When you surround an army, you must leave an outlet; do not press a desperate enemy too hard.” Translating this into social movements, I’d express it as, “Leave room for redemption; don’t shun the opposition forever”. Because if people think there’s no path to redemption, they won’t try to redeem themselves. They’ll go further down the path that you don’t like.
Maybe the cost sobered them up and they had a real thought of the real worth of what they were doing.
It’s all fun and games until you hit the squeeze.
Personally I don’t care how people convert to the right way of thinking. I care that they do it.
This purity test mentality is what kills movements.
Fair.
I was a petty church boy until people who were kind enough to challenge my beliefs without belittling me. If I had been shunned for not getting it about then president Dubya, I might have become a very different person.
Exactly this here. All this purity posturing drives people away from movements.
I like to borrow a phrase from Stratagem Twenty-Two (Catch the Thief by Closing His Escape Route):
Roughly translated it means, “When you surround an army, you must leave an outlet; do not press a desperate enemy too hard.”
Translating this into social movements, I’d express it as, “Leave room for redemption; don’t shun the opposition forever”.
Because if people think there’s no path to redemption, they won’t try to redeem themselves. They’ll go further down the path that you don’t like.