1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards
2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
Community Ban
3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
(I have not posted there)
Likewise the community has no rules listed, so I’m not sure how I’ve broken rule 4
Davel is probably going to try to claim me downvoting a post or comment of his that popped up on my feed or something as me breaking the entire instances rule 4 (no spam?) - which is why I need to be banned only from one community I don’t engage in.
Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately, even going so far as to downvote me telling real legitimate antisemites to ‘fuck off’.
Even CowBee had the decency to admit they were in the wrong and change their ragevote to an upvote.
Davel however seems to especially thinskinned even for the typical .ML’er and would rather double down and engage in poorly disguised retaliation bans for criticisms of a political ideology.
This thought terminating behaviour on display by one of the admins of such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml was not at all warranted and I hereby call on the leadership at lemmy.ML to unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community.
Getting banned from communities you don’t even post on, Lemmy really is a full featured Reddit replacement.
Aha, but does Reddit have a YPTB to call out the PTBs? I thought not! Checkmate!
It used to before admins shut it down for “harassment”.
… Spez’s inbox?
perhaps lemmy.ml is, but no one is forced go on that instance
.ml is there and available on the fediverse in the same way that warm and somewhat leaky packs of discount meat are there and available on the shelf.
Problem is the tankies aren’t staying there. One of them has even managed to infiltrate the db0 leftymemes mod team… despite it’s claims of being “free of the “ML” influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.”
Wait which one is that? I might be missing something here.
The one with “lemmy.ml” behind their username. I just blocked that /c, and I’m not unblocking them now to check.
LMAO, good riddance
Just an FYI, ‘“ML”’ there refers to Dengists.
An excerpt from rule 3:
actual ML’s are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don’t just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago
No need to explain yourself - your actions have already spoken for you.
The way it looks is the way it is.
Fair enough, I’m not gonna make ya do that either.
leftymemes community, ive seen that community pop up quite alot.
Have you considered just going back to reddit?
Have you considered being nice to people? You’ll have friends that way.
Fucking cringe ass reddit speech. Like you learned to talk from Joss Weadon movies
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Being a terrible person is their entire personality.
Indistinguishable from maga. Weird.
Kindness is a liberal lie! I will hoard all my toys and means of production!
…take that as a no then
So, no friends?
So you can’t be nice to people, no wonder why you’re like this.
i’m still here buddy, love ya
leftymeme gives off a TANKIE vibe, how obvious can they be.
Except lacking notification that your content was removed. And a mod mail to ask questions about why. Together that makes lemmy.ml even more authoritarian than Reddit! (For an instance owner Lemmy offers freedom, but for an end-user not so much.)
Also it’s missing polls. And user and post flairs. And multi-communities. And… well, need I go on? (PieFed has all of these already btw.)
reddit has the crossbanning feature yea so much reddit. probably the easiest test to do is commenting joe roegans sub
PTB, it was probably because you keep triggering them in /c/leftymemes. Also lol at the hexbears in here calling YDI because their feelings are constantly being hurt.
EDIT: Omegalul at all the salt below.
Weird how they came in here suddenly.
B-but it was on all of our front pages! Ignore when we post it, link it, screenshot everyone, on our Slop community! Then talk about how much we hate them but don’t do anything to stop getting angry about it on the same community!
Edit: it keeps happening, wow I’m so shocked.
Edit 2: on the front page of Slop, users from Hexbear commented and then went to the post being discussed https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/59235577?scrollToComments=true
“But we don’t do that! Lemme just prove we do!”
Why did you link to a different post?
It was an example, I probably could have cleared this up
It’s just weird saying that’s the proof while saying they’re the ones causing drama.
And it’s still there while admitting it’s incorrect
Thanks. I don’t mean to rock the boat so often in your house, it’s just where all the good comms are. Let me know if it’s ever too much and I’ll stop.
Jesus Christ, you’re really going to look at their behavior and praise it for, essential, “triggering the libs”? You are basically just a right wing chud so long as it’s attacking communists
They’re not triggering the libs. They’re triggering tankies with lib memes. That’s supposedly ok.
I wonder if this thread will be what gets them to do anything about the one cheering for drama but claims to hate it
I normally agree with most of your sentiments, but not this one. if anything it seems the most sodium is coming from you and a couple other commenters in this thread. I hope you know I mean no disrespect.
I’m not one to defend hexbears. in fact most of the time I’m wary of anyone with that instance username, but in this case I think you’re being a bit unfair.
I have OP labeled as a troublemaker as I’ve seen him behaving poorly in a few places. swearing at people and calling them tankies just for disagreeing with him, etc.
I don’t think this is a left/right/hexbear/instance war- thing. it may just plainly be a “not nice” thing.
What, what did I do?
nothing, I just don’t think many of the hex commenters in this thread are being all that salty (which nobody finds more surprising than myself). most seem to have found the thread through normal channels.
maybe there’s stuff going on behind the scenes that I am not aware of, and I’m wrong. its entirely possible.
but just from an outsider perspective, it seems most are behaving fairly decently.
The downside to me explicitly choosing an instance that defeds hex and grad is that I don’t get to see their impotent rage.
It’s not worth it, but you can view this page from db0.
do they not realize, they are more like conservatives than they like to admit.
/c/leftymemes
Lib memes. Garbage comm. Banned me for persistent thought crime. Good riddance.
It totally isn’t because you’re a serial ragebaiter or anything, or your foul attitude. No, it’s totally because of thought crimes. LMAO
No no, they’re the wrong ones for banning people who said things that break rules.
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External users downvoting is considered “vote spamming”. You can check my moderation history, they used that justification for me. I just downvote low-value content as I see it.
That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. Are you serious? They consider downvotes originating from outside the instance, spam?
Apparently.
They’ll find any excuse to ban you if you say something the admins don’t like.
Can I please get your autograph?
Yeah I assumed it was that, but it was so poorly worded and completely unwarranted by anything as I’ve never posted so cannot spam or ‘ads’.
Spamming dissent, their most unforgivable sin.
Spamming dissent by saying nothing, a new low for Devel.
such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml
unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community
Wheeze… More! Do you do standup?
lemmy.ml is operated by emotionally stunted clowns.
Be fair to clowns, they contribute meaningful social commentary.
that also would never live in places like china or russia but they love to fantasize about those 2 countries all the time.
YDI.
You’ve equated communists to Nazis and said “tankie fucks deserve to get their heads bashed in.” Extremely aggressive 100% of the time whenever you encounter a Marxist of any sort. With that context, it isn’t unreasonable to ban you when it would already be a clear misfit for you to participate in a Marxist community, be it via voting or otherwise. It wasn’t an instance ban, you’re still free to comment on the socialist comm, anarchist comm, etc as far as I can tell, just not on the communist comm.
As for the bit on antisemitism, the comment was removed and all you said was “fuck off,” so myself and presumably others made rash assumptions. This isn’t ill-founded though, you had posted Nazi apologia for Nazi collaborators released from prison that went on to lynch Jewish people and communists on the very same thread simply because they opposed the soviets. This is well and truly beyond the standard left-punching the post was for. I feel that this context is necessary because your post directly calls my reputation into question in the post body.
saying that you’re wrong and your grokepedia sources are bullshit is not nazi apologia.
people can disagree with the factual content of what you’re saying without being a nazi.
stupid tankie trolls.No they didn’t make Conservapedia, they made the
anti-wokeanti-liberal Tankiepedia! Clearly it’s different.
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It implies they could go outside, but they would rather be in the bubble in their room than actually go outside and be productive to their causes.
Not like any of them actually could fight for something they believe in. They read theory but don’t apply it.
PTB.
I am so sorry you’ve had to go through this awful experience. It is entirely unsurprising for that mod in particular. Extremely defensive 100% of the time whenever they encounter an Anarchist.
Thank you for your continued support, I am considering legal action to recover the monetary damages for how distressed I am by this unprovoked rageban.
lol cringe
Low quality troll, try harder lol
lol where’s the troll besides someone “seeking legal action” against an online community that has apparently caused them sufficient distress to merit damages, whilst they’ve self-admitted they’ve never participated in said community? what a victim mentality.nobody is owed participation in an online community, and if someone has predetermined that you aren’t allowed in their communities, you should call them an asshole and move on with your life if you even care that much. jfc what delusions are people under that they think there’s any actionably legal consequences to something like this?
Okay so you’ve either proven you can’t parse obvious sarcasm or you’re still an unimpressive troll. Congrats.
honestly, given the rest of his comments, i’m not giving the benefit of the doubt on sarcasm anymore. if you’re this upset about a ban from a community you’ve never interacted with, then it seems odd to be upset enough to document things this thoroughly and make a drama based post about it. you can’t drop sarcasm like that whilst ostensibly acting genuinely in a manner befitting that which you’re professing to mock via sarcasm.
Edit to add: the reason sarcasm works is because people are supposed to be on the same page about things. reputation matters in interpersonal sarcasm, e.g. i can make much more sarcastic deadpan jokes in a group of friends whilst i wouldn’t do the same when i’m talking to a random person in public. on the internet, and especially on a federated network, it is difficult to assume a reputation when many instances interact. thus it seems reasonable to assume that, given what i’ve seen on this thread, he’s not being sarcastic.
lol cringe
lmao, even
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Clear PTB from .ml here. Jesus Christ.
YDI, every interaction I’ve had with you has been toxic, can’t really blame anyone who bans you
Have you considered that might be more in you than them.
considering their immediate reaction to me complaining about their misogynistic post title was to perm ban me for ‘homophobia’ I’m pretty comfortable saying that they’re the thin skinned one
Yeah? You really want to try that line?
Amazing display of left unity today by Hexbear.
We can’t call out bad faith actions and active spamming to tire people out, but they will gladly jump down your throat.
They can ban people for asking too many questions but if we ban them we aren’t leftists.
You call them out it’s a tirade and a rant. You give them links to show they have a bias, you’re the bad guy.
Rules for thee not for me is what Stalin wanted after all, it’s just praxis for them. Can’t wait to see how many are angry at us for not obeying their rules on another instance.
Blah blah “but muh all” blah blah “post hog” blah blah “you just hate us for causing a mess and cleaning it up”. Hope you guys have jobs and interact with real humans and stop LARPing as the revolutionaries Stalin would have shot when they stopped being useful.
Amazing how to some we’re the Tankies when we didn’t say Stalin wasnt Christ reborn and we get spammed with it. I come back from work and I have more messages than when I upset someone with a bot farm.
Left unity my ass. We can’t criticize you but you’ll kill Makhno and say you did us a favor. Can’t wait until Hexbear circlejerks about this and swear this time for real they’ll defed from us.
That rule 4 probably refers to the instance wide rule 4, which seems to be “No Ads / Spamming.”
Which is still weird because I’ve never made no posts or ads in the community.
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I tapped on the link and joined the Telegram group. I am now winning indeed.
Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately
the lack of effective blocking is what really kills Lemmy….
it’s like it was custom made for harassment and brigading.Adding features to stop that is actually counter revolutionary, if you don’t like spam you’re actually a liberal.
Idk if it’s even rage downvoting when op does vindictive stuff like this https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/58724904
Or doing exactly what they’re complaining about here to that same user
i’m not offering an opinion on that, i’m talking only about the ineffectiveness of “blocking” on lemmy
If I block someone - I never see their content, posts, or messages to me again.
What aspect is ineffective?
Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately
this someone can still follow you and downvote everything you post, and comment on everything you post, and all you’ve done is make it so you can’t tell.
I mean… I guess that’s not ideal? On the other hand, they keep wasting their time, and I get on with my life. So I’m OK with it this way.
that’s fine if you assume it’s just one single person and you’re still on the 1997 internet
Well now I’m not sure what you’re after. If it turns into brigading that’s a separate issue, and blocking one or two users from seeing your post won’t fix that, right?
In most cases, you’d want a block to go both directions. Imagine you’re being stalked by a user. In its current implementation, blocking that user won’t stop the stalking, because they can still see and interact with your posts. You simply won’t be able to see their interactions. If they comment on your post, you won’t see it because you have them blocked. But your block does not prevent them from seeing, voting on, or commenting on your post.
Essentially, lemmy’s current block function works more like a mute. When you “block” someone, you’re just muting their interactions so you don’t see the harassment. But it doesn’t actually stop them from harassing you. It just ensures you can’t see it to stay on top of it. To use the earlier stalker example, what if they’re amping up their stalking and have started doxxing you, and you’re completely oblivious because you’re not seeing their responses to your posts?
most other fediverse softwares have blocks run two ways to reduce risk of harm via stalking, brigading, and dogpiling. there’s a difference between muting someone and blocking them on things like mastodon. on lemmy blocks are equivalent to mutes on mastodon
I can see how that would be very helpful to some people. Thanks for explaining
YDI - you clearly don’t like lemmy.ml so why are you upset they are helping to curate your feed. Some divisionsbyzero mods ban people from their communities when it isn’t a right fit for them, even if the user never posted/commented in the moderator’s community.
It’s one thing when some random unknown person does it with their own personal communities. It’s a bit different when it’s an instance administrator. I think you will at least acknowledge that.
They won’t acknowledge shit.
Edit: using gender neutral terms when you don’t know the person’s gender isn’t misgendering, it’s common sense and respectful. Going back to my original words. If she has a problem with it, she can get on her real account.
Hi Hexbear! You’re so mad at me documenting the actions of users and alt accounts. I’m sure that’s not related to the fact I pinged the account at all.
Is it really “kicking someone off” when she herself admitted that she doesn’t use this site anymore? Sorry I called out someone’s bad faith actions. I’ll make sure to do it next time on a new alt, like y’all do.
Who are you and why are you talking to me like I hurt you?
“I will assume good faith and intelligence until proven otherwise.” What have I done to prove otherwise?
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Badjacketing (which includes Sockjacketing) is against instance rules.
Lmao now Hexbear is mad us again. Oh well. I guess I called them out and now they’re mad.
Rent free in their heads instead of dealing with fascists that hurt them daily. Left unity, am I right?
Fair
I didn’t realize this when I replied yesterday as I was so taken aback by your negativity but you just intentionally misgendered me.
It was not my intention at all and I have corrected it. I try to use they/them when I don’t know pronouns, and I didn’t see yours. I don’t focus on usernames that much. I apologize.
Thank you I appreciate that, I don’t really understand why we ended up at this place just because I disagreed with you?
I left lemmy months ago due to a problem with misogyny across the threadiverse, someone else made a great post about it. https://sopuli.xyz/post/28506662
Honestly after what happened here where I was jumped on for … participating in a post but not agreeing with the men in the post ??? I was going to leave again but it looks like I choose a good instance
Maybe that would matter if Deceptichum was banned from the entire instance, he is only banned from Communism and has a pretty lengthy modlog https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=8673545
Is… is there a rule anywhere that says thats how the comm operates?
Or are we just all supposed to assume potentially any comm is run by the invisible and artibrary whims and unstated rulesets of mods?
They’re not… I don’t think they are upset they cannot participate in a comm they did not participate in. That’s not the point.
The point is the the princple, or lack thereof.
If you want to have an instance wide rule that actually codifies, in some way, the ability of admins/powermods to ban anyone, from anywhere, for any reason… then that would be shitty, but at least openly and transparently shitty.
Then at least Dictatorship of the Daveletariat would at least be, you know, explicitly stated policy?
… does such a public facing rule or ruleset already exist, and I just missed it?
I was just pointing out that there are multiple communities on the threadiverse that do the same thing, including some hosted on this very instance! A community moderator’s job is to grow a community and if a person isn’t a right fit for the community why would a moderator want to keep them around, especially if they are disruptive to the community
Ok, so they deserve being banned for … breaking an undefined rule.
That’s your position?
EDIT: the whole problem here is this person got banned from a comm they’d never been to… for spamming.
That doesn’t make sense.
You saying them being banned from a comm they’d never been to… for disrupting that comm… also does not make any sense.
The other element of this problem is powermods (by which I mean people who mod multiple comms) and admins banning people from one place for infractions committed in another, and then potentially daisy chaining through private convos between mods… when said banned person isn’t really clearly violating stated rules that have that stated penalty outcome.
That is exactly the kind of hivemind/culty bullshit that is what people hate about reddit, that there’s basically just a cool kids club that doesn’t actually follow any rules with any consistency, and just acts as a kind of Mean Girls squad, exiling and censoring people … basically for annoying them or making fools of them.
Its middle school mentality. Vibes based moderation. Censorship by popularity contest, where only the cool kids get to vote on that.
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More bad faith bullshit, I downvoted you one time in this post “She won’t acknowledge shit.” You two are so dogmatic about tankies you are attacking me because I disagree with your boys club
oh that was me downvoting you. rather than address anything she said you two were sneering at her for agreeing with me and saying she’s on an alt account.
absolutely toxic behavior from you specifically 90% of the time, tbh I tend to toss you one when I see you on general principle.
That is exactly the kind of hivemind/culty bullshit that is what people hate about reddit, that there’s basically just a cool kids club that doesn’t actually follow any rules with any consistency, and just acts as a kind of Mean Girls squad, exiling and censoring people … basically for annoying them or making fools of them.
Its middle school mentality. Vibes based moderation. Censorship by popularity contest, where only the cool kids get to vote on that.
You could easily be referring to all the people raging about ‘the tankie triad’ with this.
The vast majority of the time I look at someone complaining about getting censored on .ml they were either being bigoted or insulting people.
As for vibes based moderation and censoring people for actions in other places, I got banned from quokk.au by their admin for ‘brigading’ because I cross-linked to a db0 thread complaining about the OPs mod actions. ‘brigading’ is nowhere in the site rules for quokk.au as far as I’m aware. I am also the only person to have ever been banned by quokk.au in this way so far.
I was banned for ‘homophobia’ by OP because I complained about his post having a misogynistic title.
You are literally the one defending a powermod who bans people in retaliation, because they got banned from one comm that they clearly despise for being a toxic asshole.
My position is that if you don’t like a community then you should not go there to be disruptive. When someone continues to disrupt a community that they dislike it is within the moderators duties to stop that. I support the moderators on divisionbyzero who use that to curate positive communities, just the other day another moderator made a now locked post saying they do the exact same thing complained about by the OP. I also have a reply from Diva saying that the OP has done this same action so I stand by my PTB statement.
Ok so you’re missing the entire basis point of why this is absurd.
They got banned from a comm they’d never been to, never posted in… because they were apparently ‘spamming’.
You… can’t have spammed a community that you’ve never made a post or comment in.
… Also, you say you stand by your PTB statement?
Your original statement, the inciting thing for this whole comment chain… is you issuing a YDI verdict.
Not a PTB verdict.
Those two are basically total opposites.
… Are you confused?
Like, just generally?
Ok so you’re missing the entire basis point of why this is absurd.
a basis point is a finance unit for 1/100th of a percent, you could just drop the ‘basis’ and your sentence would make sense.
really funny that you started your whole diatribe about her being confused by botching your own word usage.
I don’t really care about butchering the english language, so don’t come at me. usually I treat it with the respect it deserves, which is none. the irony, however, was excellent
I got banned from 27 communities on quokk.au for something which is not in their rules, because they were simply justifying retaliation against me for calling the OP out.
I don’t think this is a principled complaint that you have.
Stop acting like you’re innocent.
They banned you for brigading after you posted links on hexbear directing users to a post you had made about OP.
I recently got community banned by OP for ‘homophobia’, because I pointed out their misogynistic post title, I then got site banned w/ remove account from the OP’s admin, because they didn’t like that I cross posted the link to my own thread on db0
OP is making a big stink over shit he does himself, all of these rules are selectively enforced. people just rend their garments when .ml does it
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i’ve been actively avoiding hexbear but i had nothing to do but laugh looking at their slop community misrepresenting an anarchist saying that anarchists don’t just engage in critical class analysis but in other forms of hierarchical exploitation. like. the context was so completely obviously saying that anarchists engage in multiple forms of anti-authoritarianism, and class is one of them
i guess marxist can only be marxist? they can’t ever apply critical analysis to anything else?
how can they be anarchist when hexbear is a ultra-left leaning community.
i don’t know what you mean. anarchism is an extremely leftist position and the poster in question wasn’t on hexbear. the post that made it onto hexbear was a marxist-leninist effectively ignoring what the anarchist was saying critical analysis means to anarchists.
But we don’t do that at all! Hexbear insisted!
That is typical .ml nonesense they a a bunch of jokers
