• __hetz@sh.itjust.works
      21·
      29 天前

      Cover of Utopia Zukunftsroman #299, 1961 by Karl Stephan. I’d never heard of it but it reminded me of the cover art for Truckfighters’ album “Gravity X” (which itself is from the cover of an issue of Space:1999). Turns out he didn’t do that cover but he did actually do some work for Space:1999.

        • __hetz@sh.itjust.works
          9·
          29 天前

          Sure thing. I got on a fuzz rock and stoner metal kick for a while and that album cover stuck with me. Then the usual compulsion took over and I ended up on a deep dive through old sci-fi, pulp comics, etc.

  • Resplendent606@piefed.socialEnglish
    19·
    29 天前

    Here is what I don’t understand about Slackware. Why does the installer recommend on installing everything. Not just a few applications most people might need. It recommends everything. Of course you can do a more minimalist installation but the installer recommends against it. Every application possible.

    • mech@feddit.orgOP
      34·
      29 天前

      Because Slackware doesn’t have dependency resolution in the base system.
      Additional software you install from slackbuilds includes dependency info, but dependencies that are in the base system aren’t considered.
      The maintainers test against a full installation and anyone giving support assumes you have a full system. You can do a more minimal install but then you’re on your own. Similar to installing Arch without following the wiki.

      • Resplendent606@piefed.socialEnglish
        14·
        29 天前

        Thank you for the great reply. I am not saying one way is better but coming from Debian that was very foreign to me. I have a lot of respect for Slackware and people who use it.

        • mech@feddit.orgOP
          8·
          29 天前

          It is very foreign today and stems from a time without wide-spread internet access.
          A distribution was a set of software on physical media. You bought it, you installed it, and your system stayed like that until the next release. So it made sense to include the kitchen sink. That way, the same distribution was useful to everyone, regardless of use case or personal preference.

    • azimir@lemmy.ml
      9·
      29 天前

      The annoying younger sibling?

      After a run of RedHat - Fedora - OpenBSD - OSX to about 2007, I gave Debian more of a try in the form of #! Linux. That was a great minimalist distro. Ever since then it’s just one Debian variant or another. It does the job with minimal fuss.

      It really helps that I don’t push the hardware with shiny new equipment or need much in 3D drivers. Linux Mint on desktops, Debian servers, Ubuntu only for driver issues, Raspian/Armbian on SBCs.

  • BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca
    8·
    29 天前

    I used to Slackware that time when RedHat’s package system constantly broke, and no internet so I couldn’t use Debian.

    Good times.

    • mech@feddit.orgOP
      2·
      27 天前

      Here’s a good up-to-date installation guide which mentions the most common pitfalls:
      https://ratfactor.com/slackware/new-computer
      Note that the author uses Slackware’s default elilo bootloader. I prefer installing grub, which will be the default in the next release.

      To install grub during installation:
      https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/howto-install-grub-on-slackware-with-efi-4175727510-print/

      Afterwards, you’ll probably want to:

      • change to default runlevel 4 in /etc/inittab, to boot into a graphical desktop
      • install and setup slackpkgplus, a plugin to Slackware’s package manager that lets you use additional repositories, especially the alienbob repo
      • install flatpak from that repo to make your life easier

      But I can’t stress enough that if you’re just looking for a good, functional Linux distro that works as you’d expect, this isn’t the right one.
      It’s a museum piece. You’ll face issues that other distro’s maintainers have solved or hidden away long ago.
      It takes a special kind of curiosity and interest in the history of Linux to enjoy this as a new user.
      And the only reward is an operating system so simple in design you’ll soon know every part of it inside and out, and which then won’t change on you or do anything unexpected.

    • limelight79@lemmy.world
      1·
      28 天前

      LOL Sorry, I had to laugh. I started with Slackware back in the 90s, and I finally moved away from it in 2017 or 2018.

      Installing it is easy. Where it starts to get headachy is dealing with dependencies when you install something that isn’t a standard package. (I remember, I wanted to install the Ubiquiti Unifi software, and I was just like…“I do not want to deal with this.”) Then, I’d get nervous about updates, “What is this going to break?” And that’s bad from a security point of view.

      I understand they do have some dependency management now, so it might be better than it used to be.

      I ran it on my desktop, laptop, and my server. The laptop and desktop got switched first, initially to Kubuntu until a few years ago, but now they run Debian. The server was last to be switched from Slackware, and for that I went to Debian. (Debian on the laptop and desktop came later.)

      Don’t get me wrong, I loved Slackware, and subscribed to the automatic CD delivery for years. But Debian has just been so much easier to maintain, and more mainstream, so more things are packaged for it. It’s pretty rare that I can’t find a .deb for a piece of software.