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Brave is a piece of shit software, created by a piece of shit person.
You have just described most software
From the Brave website:
Beyond this core engine, Brave has built in tons of custom features atop that open-source Chromium core:
- Built-in ad blocker
- YouTube ad blocker
- AI assistant
Yeah, no. I’ll stick with LibreWolf.
Not to mention that the CEO of Brave is a homophobic bigot. Good enough for me to boycott as a cis het male.
Edit 2:
I derped. See below. Speed reading and alcohol make for a less than ideal combination. The eggnog is still tasty though. Leaving it up for transparency.
het male
You can call somone a bigoted piece of shit without literally including a group who have fuck all to do with him or his shit opinions. Let’s be better than the exact thing you are calling out. I was with you right up to the last two words which were utterly unnecessary.Edit:
On second reading I’m not clear on the intent of the last statement. I’ll ammend my statement after clarification 👍
I don’t need to explain myself to you, but I will indulge you nonetheless because of the message I’m trying to spread, even though your attitude off the bat really sucked. 😛
I added it because I want to normalize that you can support something or boycott something even though not doing so doesn’t affect you directly. You can stand up for something because it’s right, not just because you stand to gain something from it.
It’s meant to normalize solidarity, which we see very little of in today’s humanitarian and political climate.
I hope that satisfies you and maybe think one step further before jumping to criticize so quickly. You did make an edit but it didn’t do too much with its demanding tone.
Happy continuation of the holidays to you.
Considering the edit I made after rereading it - I had difficulty determining if you were firing shots or describing yourself. Speed reading and eggnog mix about as well as one would expect. In short - I’m not here to pick a fight where there isn’t one.
I’m perfectly happy that my original interpretation was incorrect and will amend my comments as my edit suggested. I understand a lot of marginalized groups are frequently hurt and can lash out generically against the group that hurt them. Its not fun being included in that - which was the intent of my original statement.
Appreciate the reply - cheers and well wishes. 👍
No worries, you owned up to the mistake in a very nice manner. We’re cool, you’re a good person.
Happy new years, eh!
I’ll admit my booze and nutmeg loaded brain tripped over the acronyms and by the time it processed I’d posted and moved on. A moment later: “holdup…”
Apologies for the mistake again - and here’s hoping 2026 is kind to us 🍻
Much love into 2026. Enjoy it, buddy!
Yeah. That’s where I went. If AI is good enough - it should sell itself. All these browsers have plugins. I see no reason to bake it in unless there’s an alteror motive.
Everyone’s in a hurry to milk that AI cow… Its a shame about the taste tho.
Firefox is a sinking ship and Brave can suck my dick
Give us an alternative to FF and watch me sprint
there is none, unfortunately. the best you can do is Firefox forks. i use zen, some people use librewolf, but that doesn’t change the fact that Mozilla is getting worse every day. idk how we can get past that other than having another whole ass foundation that invests in a new browser.
Firefox has forks.
But does Firefox have spoons and knives too?
What about plates and bowls?
They’re both fucking terrible, but I choose firefox.
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What about Vivaldi Browser?
Vivaldi is easily my favorite browser, but unfortunately it’s still Chromium-based which is a problem.
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I think the best part about Vivaldi is that it lets you put the tabs to the side, and also has a built-in ad-and-tracker-blocker, despite letting you install ad-block extensions (because Vivaldi is a Chromium browser). Seriously!
You can go dildo yourself with your both suck bullshit.
Brave is just Chromium. Brave is effectively nothing.
If you want a low-drama setup: Firefox + uBlock Origin + tweak Enhanced Tracking Protection to ‘Strict’. Brave is solid too, but I’ve had a few sites act weird with the defaults.
Solidly mining crypto on your machine, correct.
And don’t forget it’s hard-coded to inject affiliate links on certain sites.
Oh, wait, I forgot they said that was an “accident”.
And do that on librewolf or waterfox
Librewolf already does that by default
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Tabs on side and adblock is all i care about. I wish firefox management was doing less harm to firefox, but it’s still better than chrome.
That’s why I use Vivaldi
Oh and this is my 666th comment here on this Lemmy instance, a lot more than Hexbear. Seriously!
More like Sino-Soviet split. The big beef is with Chrome.
Firefox is just Google’s proxy. Proxy wars are very cold war-esque
Edit. 90% of FF revenue is royalties from Google to stop anti trust lawsuits
What search engine is that shit? Hiding full URLs in search results is completely unacceptable
I just found out they’re like that. It turns out both browsers showcase their respective features.
I think both are equally good for me, it just depends on how you use them. Although their engines are different, Gecho and Chromium.
what about brave vs duckduckgo?
I use duck duck go. I’m sure someone will come now and say why it sucks lol
I just dislike any company which advertises their free product, my mind just says “but how do they earn money?”.
I.E. I had the same thought with Honey…
Gotta say, of those two arguments, Brave’s is stronger
Yeah, it’s easy to have good arguments if you don’t really care if you’re right or not
Brave has crypto minded shit built in, and they “protect you” by running their own tracking network, so they can be the exclusive sellers of the data.
Fuck brave.
Saved your comment so I can quote it anytime I see somebody try to push Brave on someone else. It’s like the Jehovah’s Witnesses of browsers Istg.
crypto minded shit built in
It’s opt-in.
they can be the exclusive sellers of the data.
You just described every single internet service that you’re not actively paying for.
Fuck Brave.
I respect your opinion, even if it’s silly.
Do they still hijack links to add their own referral codes?
Then we point to the in opt-out able donation systems they embedded into YouTube. The money goes directly to brave unless claimed and even if the content creators are against donations for their content (like Tom Scott) it’s never refunded.
Or we point to their affiliate links they embedded in every link to crypto sites for a while. Or the one site that recommends them as the best privacy browser that’s actually run by a Brave employee.
Everytime they fix it in a few weeks and tell everyone they will be better. And every time they find some other way to manipulate websites you are viewing for their gain after a year or so.
At this point it’s not the current state anymore, it’s the track record of the company that just scummy that should make you lose trust in them, but apparently their ad campaign is so effective everyone just sees the default ad blocking…
Thanks, saved this link.
It’s opt-in.
Yeah, the part that makes you money is. Still have to manually disable all of the popups and icons begging you to use it.
You just described every single internet service that you’re not actively paying for.
Difference is those sites don’t necessarily advertise themselves as “privacy respecting”
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Meanwhile I’m on LibreWolf enjoying both extra anti-tracking features and not being reliant on Chromium
Libre gang rise up!
I tried Librewolf for a while and I gotta admit that many websites were broken for various reasons. It made using the web a bit more difficult.
The only issue I had experienced is that timestamps on Twitch and YouTube chats are displaying time in GMT+0 instead of my timezone. Which is understandable as part of anti-fingerprinting. But that’s just anecdotal experience.
This unfortunately made some issues for me, as the service I was using to study Japanese had an SRS, so the reviews were based on times. I did find a timezone setting but I swear the website didn’t have one originally.
Anyway most of the time the timezone settings don’t matter but I wish I knew how to toggle just that when I need it.
Iirc the only way to disable timezone spoofing is to disable resist fingerprinting altogether, which you can do per website in about:config. Don’t remember exactly what the setting is called bit if you search for fingerprinting you should find it.
People are worried about their timezones being shared? Seems a bit excessive
I dont think its about the timezone being shared specifically. Its that your timezone can be a part of the puzzle used to track and identify you.
Ad companies dont need to know your name to know who you are. They just need to be able to track your online habits and they can build a digital signature that is you, and they can target that signature and know what to advertise without knowing who you are.
thats some of the methods reddit does now to ban people, the antifingerprinting, from brave partially delayed thier detection.
Yep, anti-fingerprinting is a bunch of smaller features, like not auto setting dark theme, not sharing your timezone, not sharing your specific browser version and so on.
My plan is usually, Librewolf for everything. Waterfox when I’m going to log in to the service anyways. Mullvad browser when my customized librewolf(not advised) breaks websites. Ungoogled Chromium when needed because of engine(e.g. testUfo).
I rented a movie the other day online that wanted real full fat Google chrome to be able to stream on Linux. I installed it in a sandbox, locked it down right, then promptly uninstalled it 3 hours later when the movie was over. Never again.
Fandango at home, for anyone wondering which service absolutely requires full fat Google chrome
At that point just get a dvd player…
I don’t want to own a copy of James Cameron’s Avatar The Way Of Water. I have a 4k BR Player and a libredrive for ripping and wouldve just purchased it if I cared to ever watch it again
Sometimes I only want to watch a movie once, my partner was dragging me to the new one and I hadn’t seen the second one so I needed context.
My problem with LibreWolf is when Firefox eventually dies, what happens to the codebase upstream?
The same question could be asked about Chromium, though. When Google completely enshittifies the engine, what happens to every browser based on it?
Shit everywhere.
maybe we’ll get lucky and they just stop adding bullshit and one of the forks just keeps fixing vulnerabilities and adding things required for the out of control standards that ditched even version numbers lol.
