• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    27 days ago

    With egg substitutes, plant milks, and nooch it isn’t even hard at this point.

    The cheese substitutes haven’t quite caught up yet, but some of them are still pretty good.

    I miss being to buy whatever spicy snacks I want, though. They all have milk solids. 💢

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      27 days ago

      I’m still yet to find a decent substitute for a sharp, mature cheddar and its one of the main things I’m missing ATM. All the ones I’ve tried that claim they are are just too creamy/ mild.

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      25 days ago

      Protip on the cheese substitutes:

      If you want that shit to melt, wet it first.

      You see that vegan slice of cheese? Run it under the tap before using it.

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    Ah, vegetarians - meat eaters with extra steps. I was one to before I learned about milk and pregnancys and rosters in the egg industry. People that prides themself for begin vegetarian all their life baffels me how clueless they are.

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      People feel they are ‘doing enough already’, which I really don’t get. If you changed yourself after leaning that these animals have to die for you, why not change again?

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        Yeah… mind blowing… Some that I have spoken with are born into it. They don’t seem as emotionally invested as someone that realized what your dinner plate causes all this pain and suffering. Its just a way of life for them… without and explanaition why ?

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      You might be surprised to hear there are other reasons for being vegetarian than animal welfare. Guess vegetarians aren’t the only “clueless” ones…

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    27 days ago

    I dont get it really… as long as i dont kill something and eat it, whats the problem?

    Arent unfertiluzed eggs just little containers of protein? Dont cows need to be milked?

    Am i missing something?

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      What do you think happens to male chicks in the egg industry? I’ll give you a hint, it involves industrial grinders and pink paste.

      Cows produce milk for their young, like all mammals. The “need” to milk them arises from milk production, in which we forcibly impregnate cows and take their young away. You can hardly call something a “need” if it only happens once you purposefully impregnate a cow for its milk and abduct their calves.

      And that’s disregarding the atrocious conditions in hatcheries and dairy farms.

      The egg and dairy industries are the meat industry, and honestly anyone who’s vegetarian for “ethical” reasons without immediate plans to become vegan are deluding themselves.

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        26 days ago

        Not only the male, the female chick are genetically selected and lead to female having more eggs. I don’t recall the numbers but I think it is something like an egg everyday but in reality they would not have eggs everyday.

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      27 days ago

      This also took me far longer to realize than I’d like to admit:
      Cows only need to be milked after a pregnancy. And pregnancies lead to babies. In effect, we’re talking about 5-6 calves over the lifetime of 1 milk cow. Some of those calves will become the next generation of milk cows, but you’re not gonna keep those 4-5 extra calves around. Those will get slaughtered.
      So, yeah, consuming milk products directly leads to cows being killed…

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        26 days ago

        I hope milk cows have a nice retirement after they can’t “produce” enough babies and milk anymore /s

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          They get slaughtered when their milk production goes down around 6 years old. Even though they could get 18 - 20 years old. So not only the calves are slaughtered, their moms as well…