At least my death after I’m drafted in the wars over oil will raise the share price of the Military-Industrial Complex shareholders, bless them 🙏🙏🙏
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Welcome to operation meat shield where we’ll cash in those 30 years of contributions and pensions to keep the markets going I up and the boomers from having to face consequences.
Sign. Me. Up.
I’ll kill half a dozen cops or MP’s or die trying if they try to forcibly deploy me before I do a single goddamn thing for Trumps Military.
If somehow I’m deployed against my wishes my first action is to make a white flag out of my underwear, surrender to whoever they deploy me against, and share as much intelligence as I have (probably 0 but who cares).
This isn’t some power fantasy by the way, I don’t want to hurt anyone.
As a european, chances are if my country is being invaded, it’s either by Russia og USA. If I’m gonna have to defend my country it will absolutely not be through the military. Conventional warfare against a greater foe is just a really good way of getting killed.
Either civil disobediance or terrorist attacks like the IRA is more my style.
Terorist attacks implies that your town is already occupied, and by then it’s too late. It’s very easy for an occupying army to shoot civilians, and they do it regularly. IRA style worked because British army did not depopulate towns.
You won’t do much without weapons, and the military is one of few ways to get them.
Also not handguns or rifles. If you ever need to use a rifle, the enemy is already right at your face (or you’re shooting civilians). And you’re not buying yourself a grenade launcher or an artillery piece with your civilian salary and civilian hunting license.
The best way to contribute as a civilian is to assemble some drones, ideally with 10 kg payload, enough to rig it with an anti-tank mine. In case of invasion, the army can provide mines really quickly.
This is why I don’t think the strength of the US military holds up to its historical reputation today.
No one wants to fight stupid wars for someone else, but they are willing to defend themselves, their loved ones and their way of life. And we have the internet that allows us to know that yes, other people also live a similar life to me and have similar thoughts. Sure, they have all the prepper and tacticool guys dying at the chance to get on a chopper. But real life warfare, especially guerrilla, is not like in the (American) movies
Remember that when a dictator runs out of qualified people, they’ll draft anyone who has a pulse to keep things going.
The issue is that many of us are also concerned about the others who would or at least could be drafted. Our children. The younger adults we’ve taken under our wings and built friendships with. It’s hardly any comfort knowing that I would never be drafted. Granted, I don’t think there’s a good chance of anybody getting drafted in my lifetime, but stupider shit has already happened, so there you go.
Wishful thinking, in the Serbian- Croatian war they were drafting 60 year olds. Russia has dropped any medical exemptions.
Nahh, they’d have to be drafting 60 y/os by the time they got to me. Honestly ill just be impressed i held out that long.
Unless you foresee them instituting the draft tomorrow.
Russia’s strategy has been to throw meat at the front until Ukraine runs out of bullets resulting in over a MILLION killed or wounded. The US had around 60,000 total casualties across the entire GWOT, with the vast majority just being wounded.
The point being I don’t think the military will need a draft anytime in the future. That doesn’t rule out the possibility trump does it for the hell of it, but at the same time I’m pretty sure the Republicans would impeach him themselves if he did that.
The point being I don’t think the military will need a draft anytime in the future.
US military has a record number of recruits because it’s the only way to get an education and healthcare.
eh, in the Netherlands you can get drafted until 45. at least there’s no mandatory duty nowadays… yet.
No one thinks there would be a draft. But 40 isn’t a cut off, nor would weight excuse you. The U.S. military has enough members to fight in 10 Vietnams at once.
(Also war has changed, so maybe 100 Vietnams at once)
The U.S. military has enough members to fight in 10 Vietnams at once.
And loose 10 Vietnams at once.
If you think the U.S. lost Vietnam, you are mistaken. The U.S. never tried to occupy Vietnam nor would, it’s racism would never want it. Vietnam was a political tool with 16:1 death tolls. And the 16 wasn’t the U.S.
The outcome of war isn’t determined by leaderboards. Are you that shallow a thinker? The US wasn’t trying to maintain a client state? They went in there to do what exactly? For fun? For shitties and giggies?
Turn off of Call of Battledudy™ brainrot and get a an education, jesus christ…
Its pretty damning of the state of things to see someone shilling this in 2025 and on here of all places.
Lol
Im not talking about weight but okay its w/e
Guy in the picture is obese though
Observant. Yes.
You posted an image of an obese person talking about being draft worthy. Are you lying now or when you posted it?
Lying? Its a meme. Weight gain is a symptomatic condition. You know what. Memes might be a bit much for you. I lied.
We should all just plead for having bone spurs.
The average age of a Ukrainian soldier in 2023 was 45, and probably hasn’t improved. And I also expect there are plenty of men in their 50s and 60s in various roles.
Seen interviews from the other side from lonely old men who haven’t been drafted but wanted to sell their lives to provide monetary help for their younger relatives, pay for school neccessities for their grandchildren etc, since they’ve already had the best of their time on the earth and are open to give something back. Without going an inch deeper into what they are signing up to do, that’s one kind of motivation that can put amateur elders into trenches in the context of a foreign country war. Had none relatives doing that, thankfully, but seen the same pattern with my gramps in their last years, and can imagine a future orphan-crushing-machine headline of some Jonh H. Lawnmover going into another war because their daughter can’t pay a hospital bill after a short stay if I assume the same mentality exists in the US in spite of borders.
Yeah, 45 was the cut off for the U.S. as well during the world wars I believe
Can’t draft me if you had to gun me down in the living room. Fuck this shit hole joke of a country.
They will just shoot your family if you don’t get to the front.
but first your friendly dog
The motivation for most new recruits in the US military is escaping poverty. That poverty is on purpose to funnel recruits into the military. Unlikely to ever be a draft again, they’ll just ramp up the poverty.
Also why leadershit is pissing their pants over declining fertility rates.
The motivation for most new recruits in the US military is escaping poverty.
Also the leading motivation for ICE recruits. That and the ability to be jerks.
The leading motivation for ICE recruits is power fantasies of hurting people and feeling important.
We need socialisam
you’ll get barbarism
“Barbarism refers to a state or condition characterized by a lack of culture, civilization, or refinement, often associated with acts or ideas that are considered offensive or uncivilized”
NGL bud, that sounds like a lot of places in the world currently.
exactly
socialism or barbarism
humanity rejected socialism and now you will get barbarism
Please explain
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What?
I have a bone spur in my foot, can I also dodge a draft?
How wealthy is your bone spur?
Not very wealthy.
Are you also into children? Then sure!
“Next thing you know you’ve got Uncle Sam’s ass askin’
To join the army or what you’ll do for their Navy
You just a baby
Gettin’ recruited at eighteen
You’re on a plane now
Eating their food and their baked beans
I’m 28
They gonna take you 'fore they take me”Thank you, Slim Shady.
Its marshal now.
and it Mathers
When Nazi Germany decided to declare war on the whole world, their leaders remarked that some of the fighters they were forced to use were “old meat” and “green vegetables”. (So-called “casserole” units.)
It’s one thing to think you’re invincible and quite another to commit acts of state-sponsored terrorism and war in the belief that you’re untouchable, but if there’s anyone in the world who seems willing to find the breaking point, it appears to be Donald.
They are more commonly known as “cannon fodder”
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Millennials spent our time terrified of a draft 10-20 years ago. Gen Z, welcome to the “anti war for my own self preservation” club, we [millennials] really did try to keep you out of it
How hard did we really try though?
A lot of us elder millennials are scared for our kids. I’d rather go in his place . If it comes to that
Yeah
But it’s not coming to that. I’m so sorry.
Why would you be sorry about it not coming to that?
Because I wouldn’t want to send my kids to any war I could fight instead of them. But they are not gonna send a 40+ yo if they have 20 something year olds at their disposal. Also, if they need to, they will send the kids first and then the fathers, so it’s not coming to that, hence I’m sorry.
Ah, ok. I misinterpreted your comment to mean that they wouldn’t have a need to step in and go in their place.
Fair enough.
I’m glad you asked. People usually downvotes and leaves.
That’s optimistic.
NGL, I had to legitimately tell myself this the other day. I spent most of my formative years as a young adult worried that the neverending war in the middle east would escalate and I would be drafted. I was not alone in this fear either, most of my peers had plans to flee the country if Bush called for conscription.
It never did end up happening, probably because the war was deeply unpopular after it was clear that the invasion was just a pretense for regime change and not at all related to 9/11 or WMDs.
I think the mental trauma from that never healed, and now I’m pushing 40 and still thinking every new “war” we start will have the MPs knocking at my door to serve me my mustering papers.
