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Sen. Ruben Gallego, an Arizona Democrat, said he will introduce a resolution to block Donald Trump from invading Greenland, a self-governing Danish territory.

Concerns about U.S. action against Greenland have grown on the heels of the attack on Venezuela, which led to the capture of leader Nicolas Maduro.

“Everybody wants us to have a bigger presence in Greenland to combat the Russian/Chinese Arctic influence,” Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said.

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      In a sane world, this would be articles of impeachment met with unanimous shouts from the rest of the government. In a sane world, the people wouldn’t have forgotten how batshit insane his first presidency was. In a sane world, he wouldn’t have gotten any further than “grab em by the pussy.” Fuck, in a sane world, Trump would have died years ago from a stroke and/or heart disease from a combination of the McDonald’s he constantly eats and the syphilis he undoubtedly has and the best legacy he’d have left behind is “You’re fired.” That is, of course, until we found out just how involved he was with Epstein and any scant trace of him or his celebrity was wiped off the face of the earth in disgust.

      We don’t live in a sane world.

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        Why would you pick syphilis? A disease that’s easily curable with antibiotics. Sure it can leave long term damage if untreated, but he’s been wealthy with access to modern healthcare so I doubt that.

        The brain damage from his obvious strokes or the dementia aren’t curable

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          I could 100% see Trump having untreated syphilis throughout the 80s and 90s

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      Yeah, I have a really horrible feeling that WW3 is going to start soon. This is why it’s bad to have such an insanely huge military. Not only does it deprive your own people of hundreds of billions in social services, it provides a piece of absolute shit like trump the ability to destroy global stability whenever they want.

      We all fucking tried telling conservatives and third party voters for over a decade now that this was a life or death situation, to oppose trump at all costs. Every goddamned day we are proven more right than we ever knew. America is over at this point regardless, but even worse we may take down millions or billions of humans in the process. Never been a scarier time to be aware of world politics.

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        I am of the honest opinion that whatever history considers the “first act” of WW3 has already occurred, whether it be boat bombings, leader abductions, or something else I don’t even know about.

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          Previous “first acts” of world wars quickly led to a cascade of treaties being acted upon and declarations of war being announced. I think your opinion is unfounded in historical context. Not to say that we shouldn’t be alarmed or that we’re hurtling towards a global armed conflict if drastic change doesn’t occur, but I think its alarmist to claim its already started.

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    “Everybody wants us to have a bigger presence in Greenland to combat the Russian/Chinese Arctic influence,” Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said.

    If only we had some kind of alliance with Greenland/Denmark and perhaps other countries in the North Atlantic. Maybe we could, like, set up a military base in another country to protect those mutual interests? I know it sounds crazy because we don’t do any of that currently, but maybe that would be a better option.

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      But how would you steal all the wealth from Greenland for your corrupt corporate overlords/your insider trading?

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      Yes in the North Atlantic. It’s like we could have some kind of Treaty. Maybe we could form some kind of Organization. Maybe someone could make Trump think he came up with this idea all by himself. FIFA could give him a trophy for it.

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      They also act like US Corporations wouldn’t get a really good deal if they wanted to purchase the rights to extract some of the mineral wealth of Greenland to extract.

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        Exactly, it’s not like him raping children isn’t an issue, but him trying to start ww3 is just way worse, and actually happening right now.

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      Grab’em by the oil/Greenland/rare earth minerals.

      When you have 11 carriers, they let you do it.

      He’s still acting like a pedophile.

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      The fact that he’s a pedophile should be enough for all the fat lazy Americans to get him out of office. The fact that he is murdering people all over the world on your behalf is actually more important to the rest of the world.

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    He already isn’t supposed to be able to do this without Congressional approval. But if he does it will be without consequences regardless.

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      Yeah I don’t get it, they are trying to stop him with laws after he ignored laws and there was no consequences.

      How about you apply some of the existing laws and do those consequences

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    Lindsey Graham should do the world a favor and end his own miserable, self-loathing life

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    “Everybody wants us to have a bigger presence in Greenland to combat the Russian/Chinese Arctic influence,” Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said.

    For the kids in the audience, Lady G ran for President in 2015 (before trump rode the escalator to hell) and for his campaign announcement speech he basically filled a good half hour with flag-waving demands to attack Iran immediately. Like, that was the most important issue of his campaign. Which- Iran was not especially in the news for anything at the time, even.

    Sort of like when the Sandwich Artist comes out from behind the counter to talk about the weather and then goes on a thirty minute rant about the little people living in his teeth.

    A.k.a. Graham is a complete fucking tool who should never be acknowledged, much less quoted.

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      The secret is writing the rules on some bullets. Then find a way to let him keep the rules in his head, despite dementia

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    Remember when the president had to go to Congress and ask them for a declaration of war rather than it being Congress taking action to stop the president from declaring unilateral war by himself? You know, like after Pearl Harbor. Good times.

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    Dumbest thing I’ve heard of. Resolution to keep the idiot from doing something he’s not allowed to do anyway. Like making a law to make crime illegal.

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      If committing the action literally described as a war crime in the ucmj isn’t enough to get any action going, why would this do it? I appreciate the senator’s words, but at this point we’re done. Cooked. Finished.

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    Trump is no business man but he is a genius at deflecting. It seems Epstein file related comments are almost non-existent lately. The files haven’t been released as ordered by law, and the deadline to release them has been passed. Crickets…

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    It scares me that people are starting to take this seriously, because that just might embolden those idiots. This is not on the same level as Invading Yet Another Latin American Country. Stop treating it as such.

    My apologies to all Latin American countries, I hope you understand what I mean. Hell, the USA couldn’t even invade most Latin American countries anymore as it used to do.

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    I wouldn’t put much past the current American administration. I haven’t been able to shake this impression that we might really be looking a the telegraphing of an invasion. From what we know and have seen, the administration is very much itching to apply the fullest extent of its powers. It’s defined by unprecedented and extraordinary use of extralegal action and complete disregard for how it might be seen by the world at large.

    They said for years that Russia wouldn’t move on Ukraine, and then green men marched in and took over Crimea. It’s no secret how much America is becoming increasingly like Russia in every way. US already has significant military presence in Greenland — a green men play would be really easy. And Greenland also has a surprising number of politicians who openly say that they prefer the security offered by Trump’s America over Denmark, even as they declare that they want independence (experts argue that independence might make them even more vulnerable to takeover right now). It’s easy to assume that at least some Greenland doors would open up to an American green man advance.

    Also, as far as consequences for taking over Greenland, we seem to be primarily looking at a breakup of NATO — something that is also on this US administration’s longstanding wish list. Experts don’t seem to think it’s ultimately likely to result in an actual war so much as make it crystal clear that the old rules no longer apply, and that the US isn’t a friend (the Article 5 debate is shaky, especially against the prospect of actually going to war against America, and especially while NATO is also dealing with the Russian war in Ukraine). On paper it kind of reads like a win-win-win situation for the current brazen, imperialist, and isolationist American kleptocracy.

    I’d say we at least need to take this stuff seriously.

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      You’ve put the cart before the horse… the USA isn’t “becoming increasingly like Russia in every way”.

      Russia is becoming increasingly like the USA in every way

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          It stuck out to me, I’ve been reading how the USA and friends “aided” Russia in the 90s, after WWII, and after WWI, pouring billions into it to keep the money flowing, every drop for capitalism.

          We like to blame them for so many things, frankly to increase our (USA and friends) own military spending and much more.

          I can only think ML means milliliter tell me the secret

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            No secret, ML is Marxist-Leninist. They tend to have a similar focus and way of framing things as what I’m picking up from you.

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              Did they speak English like me, too? Were they talking about the USA and Russia, like me, too?

              THE SIMILARITY IS UNCANNY you are the world’s greatest detective how did you know? Can’t get one past you!

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    Jesus Christ our government is so fucking stupid. The headline on this article gave me an instant migraine 🙄 what a country

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    If I were the “Boss of all Europe”, I’d have nuclear weapons in Greenland/Canada already; you could launch and wreck the USA long before the USA could retaliate against Europe (Greenland/Canada would be “taking one for the team”).

    Ironically, that’s what Trump wants to prevent (security risk and so on).

    By “Trump” I mean whomever has inspired our impaired, senile POTUS to take Greenland.

    This probably means that the USA is planning moves against Europe/EU/NATO in the future, so it wants lots of ocean between us, as much as possible. This has always been the best defense for the USA, it’s allowed us to punch, but not be punched back. So far.

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      Europe has nuclear weapons closer to the US than Greenland.

      Technically, if everything works as if on paper, an attack on Greenland is an attack on Denmark. An attack on Denmark is an attack on France, according to EU articles, which are more tightly binding than NATO ones. And the French have nukes on subs floating under the Atlantic in undisclosed places, and their nuclear doctrine is basically “we use nukes as warning shots”.

      In practice, just selling all US securities and cash reserves held by Europe would basically cause the US economy to implode overnight, and the US government to have to declare bankruptcy, and stop being able to pay or even feed its soldiers.

      The problem is that it would also cause a deep recession in the EU and basically all over the world, so that’s why we’re playing chicken.

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        Oh, good.

        We’ve had one mutually assured destruction, but what about second mutually assured destruction?

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        That’s very interesting, thank you, I will read up on the “French Connection”

        I did not know that!

        I do know USA has launch sites in Europe and submarines, also. I’m not sure if NATO or the USA controls them the sites in Europe.

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          IIRC the USA does not have intercontinental missile launch sites in anywhere but the US. The US nukes in Europe are all plane borne bombs.

          Those can’t really be launched unless both the US and the host country agree, and France and the UK have a bunch of those as well.

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            You’re right on paper, they are weapons to be loaded on to planes…

            Maybe I’m paranoid, but I think they probably have nuclear missiles on US military bases in spite of any agreements.

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                They never needed to do any of this crap.

                They want to.

                Also, they wouldn’t need to use an ICBM, their targets are very close.

                They just need nuclear warheads and a fast delivery system.

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    Give conservatives power and the next thing you know we’re submitting bills to prevent the conservative president from invading ally nations.

    The fact that the Republican party will still exist after this is a testament to how sad this nation has become.

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      You’re living through a grand moment. We don’t know how this story will be told, but probably as the fall of an imperialist empire led by a population of spectacle dazzled individuals who believe in the authority of concepts like The Market. A society too obsessed with their own freedom from to actually obtain any freedom to. A society with such little humility, American Exceptionalism can be seen touted as the cultural norm despite clear lack of substantive exceptionalism (mind having the most war ships). When all of this becomes immediately obvious to the general public, you might say we’re in an age of post-enlightenment. I wonder what we’ll find on the other side of that evolution.