Conservatives: “actually it is pie and there’s none for you”
Leading inevitably to:
The “snowflake”, “facts over feelings”, and “anti-cancel culture” people don’t actually stand behind their beliefs?
Ugh, it’s honestly hard to pretend to be surprised anymore. Can we just change every headline about conservatives to say, “Giant pieces of shit are still shitty”?
But in fact is like pie as those keeping you from equal rights are benefiting because of it. If that unfair disadvantage is lifted from you, they lose their benefit and that’s why they can’t allow it.
There is a very real aspect of loss that these people will feel if their unfair advantage is taken away.
And…? I mean, water is still wet, right?
World will be better off the day every one of them experiences that loss.
Ackshually, water isn’t wet. Water makes things wet. 🤓
“Wet” is a transitive property; here’s why.
How do you tell if something is wet? You take something dry (not wet) and touch it to the supposedly wet thing. Is the dry thing now wet? If so, the thing you touched with it was also wet.
Now, apply that same logic to water. If I take a dry towel and touch water with it, the towel will be wet. Therefore, the thing I touched with the towel (the water) is also wet (but now slightly less wet because of the towel).
Wetness is a liquids ability to maintain contact with a solid object. Scientifically, water is not wet.
https://scienceinsights.org/why-isnt-water-wet-the-science-explained/
https://biologyinsights.com/is-water-scientifically-wet-the-science-explained/
That implies that water can’t make water wet.
Because it can’t.
He said he’s been in contact with Koons and the other two women and agreed to meet with them for a coffee sometime this week to offer them the opportunity to discuss their concerns and points of view, and answer any questions they had hoped to ask at the town hall.
A nice little tea party where everyone can ignore her and whatever she has to say won’t be heard by conservative voters.
I mean, maybe my bar has been lowered to subterranean levels- but at least her local rep said she should have been allowed to stay and offered a private meeting so she could be heard.
RCMP said it was the event organizer, local guy said it was RCMP but it looks obvious to me this was Pollievre’s team that was acting shitty. True to form for that jackass.
I feel like there’s a serious problem barely hinted at by the article: That a “town hall” meeting was considered a private event. That doesn’t make sense to me. Why would it be private? If it is private, why would the police be on hand to work security?
This is Canada. So while the below excerpt may make it seem mild and OK by US standards, this is the type of thing that led to where the US is today.
Cowichan-Malahat-Langford MP Jeff Kibble, who hosted the town hall, said he wasn’t aware of the women being asked to leave at the time, and was “saddened” to hear about it. He said he’s been in contact with Koons and the other two women and agreed to meet with them for a coffee sometime this week to offer them the opportunity to discuss their concerns and points of view, and answer any questions they had hoped to ask at the town hall. Kibble said they are welcome to wear any T-shirt they want at the meeting.
Okay, totally unrelated, but “Kristi Koons” and “Jeff Kibble” sound like wildly made up names and I love it.
And that shirt is pretty mild. Although good.
Okay so despite agreeing with the message on the t-shirt, I am so fucking tired of all the media click-baitiness.
The article does not say whether this was a conservative woman who was “shocked” at being treated thusly (seriously? NOW you realize that your face is being eaten off, after all this time?) or an agitator (no judgement there but… are you really so “alarmed” then?), but it does say things like:
Kibble [the meeting organizer] said they are welcome to wear any T-shirt they want at the meeting. “I’m not sure who made the decision to ask them to leave, but the RCMP are in charge of risk assessment and I appreciate and thank them for leaving willingly,” Kibble said. “All people of all political beliefs and opinions were represented at the town hall and were welcome to participate in a healthy and respectful conversation. That’s what makes for a good democracy.”
Which aside from not being true (I seriously doubt that leftists were meant to feel “welcome” there), does not match the vibes that the article is trying to push in the title. And - no joke - the woman and the organizer are literally making plans to go for a coffee the following week, to engage in a more respectful dialogue.
Confirmation bias is a real thing, and I dislike how we make fun of it when conservatives do it, but ignore it when it is convenient. Why degrade ourselves to stoop to that level?
Its not clear. Reading the whole article, the RCMP points the finger at the event organizers for the removal of the women. That the organizers are allowed to determine who is permitted to attend.
The part you’re quoting is the local politician politicking a response for damage control purposes. Thats how I read it, anyway. Pierre Pollievre didn’t want them there, he is the Federal Opposition Party Leader, so they were removed.
The ladies can wear whatever T-Shirt they want to meet with the local MP.
PP threw them out because he is a bitch ass little weasel
There is a lot of information missing. I am in no way saying that she deserved such treatment, but I agree that I’m not entirely sure what she expected either.
I’m assuming that the woman was neither conservative nor an agitator. Based on this statement she seems just like someone who went there in good faith potentially expecting open conversation.
“I’m an engaged community member and I often sit at (discussion) tables with people that have many points of view. I work hard to try to bridge the gaps and I have big worries these days about where we’re heading, particularly with what’s going on south of the border.”
I understand that there’s more civility north of the border. Regardless, that was a conservative meeting featuring Pierre Poilievre, leader of the Canadian conservative party who regularly kisses Trump’s ass.
People really, really need to learn that you cannot have open dialogue with conservatives. It doesn’t matter what country they’re from, how polite they might seem, or their position on the conservative scale, the agenda is ultimately the same. Spend your energy on meaningfully opposing them, rather than gratifying them with these impossible attempts at communication.
!leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world, or more apropos here, !leopardsatemyface@lemmy.ca.
Moderate conservatives are just finding out about the paradox of intolerance now?
They’ve promoted unrestricted free speech for years. Then the most intolerant speeches got loud, and now the supporters of intolerance feel entitled enough to take over and restrict their freedom of speech. That’s text book!
Am I being stupid or does the article not state what the meeting was about?
It was a bunch of conservatives. Use your imagination.
Weekly grindr meetup?
She had presumably forgotten that conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
a town hall featuring federal Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre
That’s all you need to know. The man didn’t even get re-elected in his riding and had to accept a hand-out spot from his fellow party member who decided to step aside.
It can do though, if one of the rights you enjoy is the right over other people’s bodies for example, then giving those people equal rights means you don’t have the right to tell them what to do anymore. Which is why many men are against giving women rights.
OK, but where can I get that tee?
I saw it as a bumper sticker the other day too, so you can probably just search for it.
Most full of shit people ever end up being totally full of shit. Big surprise.
