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    If is was really “Intelligence” then it would have saved a backup copy first. “AWTF?” is a more fitting name for it.

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      If he only used it as a tool, I’d still say it’s his work. It should of course be included in the methodology section.

      But considering he lost 2 years worth of work, just because his chats got wiped? That’s more than just a tool

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          “Oops all the research was set on fire” is a tale as old as grad students.

          In the 2000s it was trusting everything in a multi-year study to a single thumb drive. In the 70s it was carrying the only copy of everything in a single briefcase. Presumably at some point someone was devastated that the rain came early and wiped out all the work on the sand table.

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      Is it the LLM’s research? Do guns shoot people?
      Researching other people’s work is still research. If they start claiming other people’s work is their work without having added any value, then it’s obviously stealing, but otherwisethis argument makes no sense.

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        When you type “dear robot girlfriend, do my work, make no mistakes” into a chatbot window, and then use the slop that the average word predicting machine shat out, you’re not doing research. In fact, you’re not doing anything besides frying your brain while frying the planet.
        It’s not “research” at all, but whatever that is, llm generated it, you did nothing.

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          So if I just quickly search Wikipedia or list through a few books, is that a research? How many prompts or hours until my unnamed activity becomes research? Is it a hard limit, or just based on how hateful you’re feeling for the day?

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            If I go to the restaurant and order something, is that counts as me cooking? How many times I need to point to the waiter at the menu and ask them to bring me something, until I am officially count as a professional cook? If I ask them to make it less salty and add cheese, is it counts as the restaurant employing me as a chef or only as a liner cook?
            Just in case your chat “research” fried your brain completely, and it needs to be spelled out: no, to be called cook you need to cook the food. To do research you need to do research, not ask a word prediction machine to do it.

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            Despite what your clanker wifu told you, just saying the word “strawman” doesn’t actually constitutes as a proper position.

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              You just made an assumption on how the research was done, that’s your strawman. Then you attacked me and assumed something completely not true, that’s ad hominem. You’ll be hard pressed to find someone who hates Artificial Idiots more than me, but I also hate bad faith arguments that reduce any person to a handful of stereotypes or a caricature. Instead of throwing insults try engaging in constructive dialogue.

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    He lost his chat logs. I was going to mock him him for not backing up his work but I’m not sure I want to punch down on someone who considers his LLM chat logs research.

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    ChatGPT’s chat history isn’t “carefully structured academic work”.
    He basically used the 0/0/0 backup strategy, with not even one instance of his data saved anywhere.

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      As someone who knows a decent bit about machine learning, I can say Dr. Collier seems to know very little of how it works on a technical level, which presents such a beautiful contrast when I’m watching her be fucking dead-on about its societal consequences. Seeing someone who isn’t familiar with the field but still knows what they’re talking about is so cathartic in a subject strewn with misconceptions from laypeople. Angela’s integrity is really admirable; you can tell that critical thinking is a virtue to her and that she takes a lot of care not to overstep into areas she doesn’t understand.

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        Yeah, I agree. Sometimes I see people who are criticising AI in terms of its societal consequences, and whilst they’re decently on the mark with that, they say things that are just straight up wrong on the technical side. It makes me wince, because I worry that incorrect info may end up serving pro-AI discourse instead.

        Angela Collier is good at avoiding falling into this trap, and she does so by not pretending she knows more than what she does.

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    He disabled the feature because he “wanted to see whether I would still have access to all of the model’s functions if I did not provide OpenAI with my data.”

    Well I guess you found out

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    But now you can also question the validity of his papers, the validity of his educational value in general, and, if you do research, the safety issues of having no contingency plans in case an hypothesis fails…

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      Yeah, the guy’s credentials should be scrutinized if not revoked. This is a disgrace.
      And it’s the one who is public about it, imagine how many of his colleagues do the same, but have enough brain cells left to not actually brag about it