• Marshezezz
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    1 day ago

    I just want to watch some fucking hockey without having to be complicit in being a piece of shit. I really miss the sport but fuck this stuff.

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    This is hard for me to get a handle on.

    On one hand, there’s something about sports and competition that speaks to a lot of people, taps into something key in our collective psyche, and is profound, if not important.

    On the other hand, if half-baked, moronic, bad faith arguments about fair play and alarmist bullshit can be used as a tool to foster discrimination and hate against a group of people, then we’re clearly taking this shit far, far too seriously.

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      I think the problem is that we don’t take sports seriously enough. Trans women are women and they need representation in women’s sports. Trans men are men and they need representation in men’s sports.

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        Just to be clear, I fully agree with you. Trans persons should be represented in all levels of sport. Banning these althetes is asinine and needlessly cruel. Including trans althetes endangers nothing, and would strengthen the sport and it’s community of fans in the long run.

        But what bothers me, and what I mean by sports being taken too seriously, is how anti-trans crusaders will use people’s tendency to regard sports as something that’s almost sacred to further their agenda. I get this sense that there are people who don’t have a problem with the trans community outside of this issue, but who back anti-trans measures and politicans because they fear the fabric of our society will crumble if sports aren’t safeguarded somehow. They act almost as if a church is being defiled. They fetizie this idea of “fair play” and hero athletes to the point that people openly hate someone for using steroids but don’t seem care if their teammate commits domestic abuse. That phenomenon gets used as a wedge on election day.

        But come on, unless you compete, it’s mostly entertainment. It’s just a show to watch. At the end of the day, the role sports play in most people’s lives is little different than anything else on TV. Some people go to cons and collect merch, other people go to ball games and collect memorabilia.

        Right-wing outrage over representation in TV and movies has made the market shift, but I still feel like there’s a broad majority of voters from both sides that don’t seem to care and just watch whatever despite the noise they make on socials. Right-wing outrage over representation in sports has gotten actual legislation passed. The difference seems to say that sports play an outsized role in our collective gestalt or whatever. That we take, what is for most entertainment, a little too seriously.

        Or it could just be that I’ve had too much caffeine today. I dunno. Like I said, it’s hard for me to put this in words.

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          Yeah I think some of it is the delusions of fame and fortune - that is, parents think their little Timmy is the next Sidney Crosby and any potential competition to that must be removed.

          Fact is that Timmy probably isn’t the next Crosby, and none of those games actually matter in the long run.

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            100% yes. Timmy probably has a better chance of winning the lottery.

            With the number of open spots, the kind of talent it takes to make it pro sports, and the money involved, if Timmy was a prospect it would show on the field by the time he’s in his early teens. If it hasn’t happened by then, coach mom and dad need to grow up and just let it go. Teach the kid how to accept it and be happy instead of blaming his failures on someone else.

            So much anger over something that was never going to happen in the first place.

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              That’s actually true, at least for the NFL, if my memory is correct. I’m pretty sure I read that the odds of winning the lottery are actually BETTER than the odds of playing in the NFL. NHL has smaller teams, and fewer teams, so it stands to reason that it’s even worse.