• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Common L Twitch.

    Ban was for 7 days, and Hasan appealed it to 3 days after taking a quiz.

    In the meantime, he streamed on YouTube for the first time in like 7 years, had 140k viewers at the peak, and made a TON of money from super chats, all while being able to stream his regular news coverage AND attend the ICE Out of LA protest in solidarity.

    Israel dick riders really got him good.

    The only times Hasan has been banned from Twitch was for insulting racist white people. And they say he’s doing hate speech. Pathetic.

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      I still wanna adopt Hasan’s doggy Kaya. In fact, is there anyone taking one for the team and offering to adopt Kaya?

      EDIT: Oh and this is my 700th comment from DBZer0

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    Good, he shouldn’t have a platform.

    The talks he’s been doing pre russias invasion of Ukraine, were echoing russia’s propaganda. Everyone oposing him was a “moron”. NATO was the perp. His mods were actively perma-banning any pro-NATO sentiment.

    He’s a neutered tankie.

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      To be fair, he has admitted that he was wrong about that.

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      Yea people who downvote this comment must not know Hasan. Occasionally like in this case, he does say the right thing. But much more often he does not. His whole shtick is trying to say the right thing that will get him the most attention for any given situation without having any actual moral or ethical consistency. He will say anything if he thinks it will get him a follow…

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      He streamed last night on YouTube. Supposedly it peaked at 150k viewers.

      I personally saw it hit 100k but I dipped in and out.

      And when he turned on super chats he probably made a few thousand dollars in the first 3 minutes. I’ve never seen anything like it.

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    There is a livestreamfail on reddit that character assassinates this guy, because of israel surely.

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    Better start looking or setting up new platforms now, they are all going to get censored for the regime. The corpos love Donny too.

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    He’s livestreaming on YouTube at the time of this comment posting. I like it better on YouTube than twitch personally because YouTube Vanced is OP. But the comments aren’t working.

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    Wild/scary how easily people latched on to collar gate. Or just shows how much people are targeting hasan.

    Especially considering this ban is as dumb as when they banned him for cracker or the Rick Scott stuff. Silly him should have just been like the other big streamers and only say terrible things about Muslims or immigrants

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      Fuck Hassan, he’s so incredibly undifferentiated in his stances and opinions. And he’s stanning china waaay to much…

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        he’s so incredibly undifferentiated in his stances and opinions

        What does this even mean

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        Fellow Lemming, you’re wearing your stupidity on your sleeve.

        Sit down. Shut up. And actually watch his streams for more than a day. Maybe you’ll learn something

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      Twitch is the unspoken app that is practically dumpster fire aswell. A better alternative should be used and at this point YouTube is better than it.

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    You can make so much money defending the use of watch lists to track anti-Israel protestors in the US.

    It doesn’t say much about watch lists but it does say a lot about what it takes to become wealthy.

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      He never abused his dog, Kaya. No one have ever presented evidence that he shocked her.

      Instead, idiots like you continue to spout misinformation because certain parties want to destroy Hasan’s character as he’s gaining national notoriety.

      Watch his streams. See how much Kaya loves him. Then ask yourself if he’s a dog abuser, and that abused dogs would do what Kaya does on a daily basis

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      I don’t watch Hasan but I’m smart enough to see when whingy, bad-faith hate-watchers are attempting to blow something dumb out of proportion to get naive people to go “ANIMAL ABUSE” as a huge distraction from actual issues.

      As long as our population keeps getting distracted and bickering about bullshit like this, we will never unify and have community again.

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          I don’t like his content but I really respect his position in the ecosystem, which is essentially an off-ramp for otherwise right wing podcast bros who only respond to dunking-as-rhetoric Andrew Tate types

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          The fascists hate him because he encourages activism, whether or not he’s doing it for money, it does work and gets people charged up, and I’m fine with that. He’s been out in the street getting in trouble and that’s far more than most people are doing. if it sets an example for a horde of broccoli-haired boys to take up signs and march, I don’t care if he has a huge house to go home to.

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        I’m not sure it was ever bunked if I’m honest.

        His dog yelped while Hasan’s hands were off screen? That’s a homeopathic level of evidence.

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          Oh whatever, don’t even play that proto-vegan card. If you actually cared about animal welfare, or just pets I guess, then doing even the barest amount of research into Kaya would show it’s BS.

          Your misplaced outrage is nothing but virtue signaling.

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            Oh whatever, don’t even play that proto-vegan card

            I genuinely have no idea what that’s supposed to mean.

            If you actually cared about animal welfare, or just pets I guess, then doing even the barest amount of research into Kaya would show it’s BS.

            I watched the video of the abuse happening on stream. I listened to the meritless counterpoints of Hasan’s defenders. I don’t know what other “research” you think I should do.

            Your misplaced outrage is nothing but virtue signaling.

            Again with the nonsense accusations. Are you incapable of having this conversation without making shit up about the people you’re arguing with? I’m not going to tolerate it. Good day.

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              I watched the video of the abuse happening on stream.

              You watched a clip of Hasan’s dog catching her dewclaw on the edge of her bed and yelping, and Hasan being kind of rude about it because he was in the middle of a heated rant. You only think he used a shock collar because a bunch of drama slop-tubers made ‘analysis’ videos claiming to prove that he did with about the same rigor as right-wing ‘transvestigators’ claiming every school shooter is trans.

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                You watched a clip of Hasan’s dog catching her dewclaw on the edge of her bed and yelping, and Hasan being kind of rude about it because he was in the middle of a heated rant.

                He started yelling at her when she started moving, not when she yelped. He keeps her as fucking set dressing behind him and yells when she moves. Whether he actually shocked her or not is secondary to that behavior.

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                  idk if we’re allowed to post links to YT vid in the comments, but there’s a dude called Mujin who collected all the proof that Hasan is in fact abusing his dog, and put it in a single video.

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                  He keeps her as fucking set dressing behind him and yells when she moves.

                  You saw him do something once in a clip (yelling the ‘place’ command at Kaya when she gets up), didn’t understand why, and assumed he does that every time she moves without bothering to check yourself despite there being hundreds of hours of footage of him not doing that.

                  He is making her lay on the elevated bed instead of the hardwood floor so she doesn’t develop hip problems, which are common in large dog breeds. He’s fine with her getting up and leaving, and she often does (again, hundreds of hours of footage), just not with her laying down on the hardwood floor, which is what he probably thought she was doing in that clip.

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                No no, we should all scream and argue about Hasan’s stupid fucking dog while people are getting executed in the street.

                This shit is why I don’t identify with leftism in America anymore. The complete, willful discarding of power and political capital for the sake of performatism and identity politics. I will still fight fascism to my last breath but I hate you fuckwits out there who think you’re going to win updoots while standing in line for the “showers.”

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                  I would prefer not to have to talk about this, but this is part of how the alt-right has gained cultural hegemony in the US (at least on the internet). I’m not going to spend all my time arguing about it, but when I see someone repeating disinformation about a high-profile leftist commentator I’m going to challenge it because it harms the ability of the left to organize.

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                You should let scientists know you’ve developed telepathy and can determine what someone else has or hasn’t seen without being told. I’m sure they’d be fascinated. I’m not.

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              There is no video of abuse. You’re a moron who believes whatever narrative someone spins up for you. Get lost.

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                Well that’s just hypocritical, to say I’m a moron who believes whatever narrative someone else spins up for me, which is a narrative that you yourself are spinning up for god-knows-who. Shame on you.

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              Hon, this situation is literally the exact definition of virtue signaling. You care more about expressing how against animal abuse you are, over the actual facts of what happened. Which is the same reason I call it proto-veganism. You’re misusing the language of animal welfare advocates to instead be loud about one particular pet issue. (Pun intended 😉)

              Look sis, if all you’re asserting is that the video looked like abuse and all explanations to the contrary are baseless from biased parties, then there is very little I can say to convince you otherwise. I’m sure you think I’m a Hasan lover, when I truth I can’t stand the man. His whole dude bro yelling style stresses me the fuck out, agree with his politics, but I NEVER watch his stream. Don’t even have a twitch account.

              So instead of going through all the points/counterpoints of this conspiracy can I just ask you to occams razor this? Is it more likely Hasan has secretly been shocking her for years, taping over prongs when accused and gaslighting everyone who comes to his house? Or that she bumps her paw against the bed, which you can clearly see in the video, and yelps at the same time Hasan reaches for something on his desk?

              Look, you can make a tinfoil hat about anything you want. No one could stop you. But fundamentally, with all of the racist, sexist and transphobic shit happening in the US, is putting your energy towards Hasans dog really a good use of time? Even in the scope of animal abuse, this is nothing compared to the daily abuse of the meat and dairy industries.

              Hasan was banned for correctly criticizing zionism and Israeli genocide, I truly don’t understand why you’re talking about a dog instead.

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                But fundamentally, with all of the racist, sexist and transphobic shit happening in the US, is putting your energy towards Hasans dog really a good use of time?

                …they said, after writing a wall of text about Hasan’s dog.

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                  Their comment was barely about Hasan’s dog. Can… can you read?

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              Please feel free to enlighten me on how forcing animals into shelters against their will and not giving them the attention and time they would get in their natural habitat is any different than jails or prisons for humans.

              I’m not even anti-pet ownership, but I’ve come to terms that owning a pet is unethical 99% of the time.

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                99%?

                Cats domesticated themselves, the ones living around people found that they had a higher chance of survival if they stayed around humans. Humans kept them around as they hunted pests and this lead to them breeding more and so we have modern domesticated cats.

                They live longer, they have shelter when they want it, they roam outside when they want to. They get attention and affection from humans and play or fight with other cats.

                Dont know if i would call that abuse

                (From google)

                Around 10,000 years ago in the Fertile Crescent, wild cats (specifically Felis silvestris lybica) were drawn to early human farming settlements to hunt the rodents that infested grain stores. Cats with a more tolerant, less fearful temperament thrived, creating a natural, self-driven selection process.

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                  I don’t disagree that there is mutual benefit from pet ownership, but I believe animals should be left to their own free will.

                  I love cats, but they would roam outside if we let them. Cats then decimate bird, small mammal, and pollinator populations.

                  I don’t judge those that own pets in a negative light at all BTW. In fact when I visit friends I typically devote a majority of my time loving on their pets. I just think it’s important to remember that we’re forcing these animals into situations they didn’t advocate for. At least to me it is unethical.

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      Hate the dude because you disagree with him (or are jealous of his looks or some shit), but the animal abuse stuff is so fucking dumb

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              Have you ever had a dog (specifically a large breed) before?

              Edit: fuck shock collars, btw. Hope the implication here is not that big dogs need them. See my reply below.

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                If your next point is that a shock collar is necessary to train a large dog, first of all you’re wrong about that. But let’s say it is. Do you think it’s ethical to “train” the dog to sit in the same spot on camera for hours on end, for streamer content? Because you’d be wrong there too. There is no defending Hasan’s treatment of his dog.

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                  That was not my next point. It was not a shock collar, it was a big dog getting her dew claw caught on her bed and yelping. That’s it.

                  I’ve had big, clumsy dogs. They are always hurting themselves and knocking shit over with their awkward appendages.

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                I have! They’re beautiful. I never needed anything more than a standard leash and collar.

                That said, I know nothing about this incident or the random Internet personality that no one seems to care about. I’m just chiming in because I like dogs.

                Edit: I should also mention that I’m not a little prepubescent boy who can’t control an animal. Is that relevant to the topic?

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                  I should also mention that I’m not a little prepubescent boy who can’t control an animal.

                  The fuck are you even talking about?

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        Yes. Cant get me with “what-about-the-other-animals”

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            This mentality is so supremely unhelpful

            You’re creating an incredibly high barrier for change, which only leads to inaction. The more issues you tie together, the less consensus you can get

            There is always another issue to point to. What about malaria? That kills more people each year than all global wars combined. When was the last time you donated to anti-malaria efforts?

            We should be agreeing on the topic at hand, not attacking each other over separate issues. You’ll never agree on every issue, but you can always agree on at least one issue

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              You’ll never agree on every issue, but you can always agree on at least one issue

              Which is why he shouldn’t do whataboutism purity testing in a thread about Zionist censorship?

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              You’re missing their point. Two things we know about Hasan:

              1. He’s an influential and outspoken critic of human rights abuses, which has made him a target of the people/institutions responsible
              2. He might have used a shock collar to train his dog which he might have used on stream

              Even if the latter is true, giving more weight to it than the former seems pretty disproportionate (imo).

              As a vegan I abhor violence toward animals (and humans) and was dismayed when I saw the original clip. But after being absolutely pummelled with bs outrage “analysis” videos, to me it became clear that there was a coordinated campaign being waged to smear him, very likely from those whose abuses he criticizes.

              If he uses a shock collar to train his dog, I do not like that. Ultimately, my conclusion though is that I do know that he has consistenty taken a stand against fascism, and to me it is clear which of those has more substance.

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          Pretty rich to say that when this whole digression is just going “what-about-hasan’s-dog” to an unrelated incident.

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          well that’s great, glad to hear that! you might want to change your password or something bc someone is posting otherwise on your account, which is so weird.

          I am mostly vegetarian, eating meat only once a week

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            Yeah guess what time changes and diets change. Also wow you really looked threw my comments just to find that? Lmaoooo

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              “I have animals slaughtered for me on a weekly basis and lie about it, but I’m deeply concerned about unsubstantiated rumors about a leftist streamer using a shock collar.”

              Least bad faith carnist.

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                "I have animals slaughtered for me on a weekly basis

                How exactly do you think food works?